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Little Girl Detained By Police After Trying to Buy School Lunch with Real $2 Bill

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Little Girl Detained By Police After Trying to Buy School Lunch with Real $2 Bill

She did nothing wrong. But even if she had, a chicken nugget scam is not a matter for the cops.

Robby Soave|May. 4, 2016 2:45 pm

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LunchScreen shot via ABC 13There are stupid school discipline stories, and then there's this: a Houston, Texas, public school called the police after a 13-year-old girl attempted to purchase chicken nuggets from the cafeteria using a $2 bill. 

The police took the little girl, Danesiah Neal, to the office and told her she could be in "big trouble" for using counterfeit money. 

But the $2 bill was real, of course. There aren't very many of them—the government doesn't issue them, anymore—but $2s are out there. They constitute perfectly legal tender. 

 

The police didn't believe it. They called Danesiah's grandmother and insisted the bill was fake, according to ABC 13: 

'Did you give Danesiah a $2 bill for lunch?' " the grandmother, Sharon Kay Joseph, recalled being asked. "He told me it was fake." 

Finally, the mystery was solved: The $2 bill wasn't a fake at all. It was real. 

The bill so old, dating back to 1953, the school's counterfeit pen didn't work on it. 

"He brought me my two dollar bill back," Joseph said. He didn't apologize. "He should have and the school should have because they pulled Danesiah out of lunch and she didn't eat lunch that day because they took her money." 

That's right: the 13-year-old didn't even receive an apology from the authority figures, even though she was ultimately denied lunch that day, according to her grandmother. Grandma also had this to say: "It was very outrageous for them to do it. There was no need for police involvement. They're charging kids like they're adults now." 

This may seem like a small, silly story, but the grandmother has it exactly right: public schools overwhelmingly assume that children's misdeeds represent criminal wrongdoing and should be referred to the police. If little Danesiah had actually been attempting to pass off a fake $2 bill as legal tender, it was the school's job to discipline her, not a matter for the police. And yet law enforcement is routinely brought in to handle the most trivial behavioral disputes in public schools. 

Ironically, while K-12 institutions increasingly refer all disciplinary matters to the police, the trend for colleges is the reverse: universities are now encouraged to handle violent sexual crimes themselves, rather than automatically involve the police. These developments could not possibly be any more backward. When there is serious violence in schools, the police should always be called. When kids are just goofing around, let the school—or the parents—take care of it. 

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What a bunch of stupid bull****! Send that cop down to me, for a smack from a REAL ex-cop. He oughtta apologize profusely, and then take her out for lunch anywhere she wants to go.

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Waiting patiently for the U.S. to honor its commitment....

 

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I've had people not take dollar coins before.  Police were never involved.

When I worked at a grocery store almost 20 years ago I had people try to pay with sliver certificates.  I asked them if they were sure they knew what they were doing and then pocketed the certificate and replaced it with a regular dollar.

Once had a guy buy a coke with an 1894 silver dollar.  It was worn down but in good shape. Pocketed that too and replaced it with a dollar bill.

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8 minutes ago, bobbymalone said:

I've had people not take dollar coins before.  Police were never involved.

When I worked at a grocery store almost 20 years ago I had people try to pay with sliver certificates.  I asked them if they were sure they knew what they were doing and then pocketed the certificate and replaced it with a regular dollar.

Once had a guy buy a coke with an 1894 silver dollar.  It was worn down but in good shape. Pocketed that too and replaced it with a dollar bill.

Before you let those Silvers collect to much dust I would look them up in a currency value book or on line. Mom pasted away last year and we thought that we had a gold mine with all the old bills and coins she had. Not! Most were just worth face value. :(

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Things like this, although seemingly trivial at first glance, can really be mortifying for a child. And to follow it up with no apology, no explanation, just a "sorry about your luck"? What a sham.

To me, a second issue is just the wastefulness of it all. How much taxpayer money went to that policeman's salary that day to get to the bottom of this "crime" while real criminal activity was happening elsewhere? I am going to go out on a limb and guess it was more than $2.00...

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27 minutes ago, leech~~ said:

Before you let those Silvers collect to much dust I would look them up in a currency value book or on line. Mom pasted away last year and we thought that we had a gold mine with all the old bills and coins she had. Not! Most were just worth face value.

I just checked hsolist and my 4 $1 silver certificates are worth about $4 and mY 1894 coin goes for about $25.

... At least I've still got all those highly mass produced baseball cards in my parents basement to retire on.  Or at least a lot of firestarter for the post apocalyptic world after president trump.

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34 minutes ago, bobbymalone said:

I just checked hsolist and my 4 $1 silver certificates are worth about $4 and mY 1894 coin goes for about $25.

... At least I've still got all those highly mass produced baseball cards in my parents basement to retire on.  Or at least a lot of firestarter for the post apocalyptic world after president trump.

Oh forgot. All the baseball cards she had were all worthless as well. They have to be from the 40's-50's-or 60's or you may want to start the fire now! ;)

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At least you can melt the old silver coins down, and sell them for scrap if nothing else.

The 1894 silver dollar is worth about $12.78 in scrap at today's prices.

 

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She looks like she may have lost a little faith in the system...

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15 minutes ago, leech~~ said:

Oh forgot. All the baseball cards she had were all worthless as well. They have to be from the 40's-50's-or 60's or you may want to start the fire now! ;)

Jeez leech, what a buzz kill.

Next you'll tell me social security will be out of money by the time I turn 114 1/2 and can finally collect.

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Are there really people out there that don't know what a $2 bill is and the government gives them a position of authority?

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26 minutes ago, bobbymalone said:

Jeez leech, what a buzz kill.

Next you'll tell me social security will be out of money by the time I turn 114 1/2 and can finally collect.

Hey, I thought that I would be in Palm Springs with my new friends now!  Thanks Mom! :D

Oh side note. Mom had about 36 gold coins in cases from Grand Casino=Paper weights! :(

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I've got three of the $2 ones in my dresser.....hmmmm...naaaa. :grin:

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20 hours ago, Duffman said:

I keep three $2 bills tucked away in my wallet.

Why?

To mess with young cashiers.

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I get them on purpose from time to time just to mess with people too. It's amazing how my people don't know there is a such a thing. 

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On my way home from the second job I've taken for the extra holiday ca$h I need, I stopped at Taco Bell for a quick bite to eat. In my billfold is a $50 bill and a $2 bill. That is all of the cash I have on my person. I figure that with a $2 bill, I can get something to eat and not have to worry about people getting mad at me. 

Me: "Hi, I'd like one seven layer burrito please, to go." 

Server: "Is that it?" 

Me: "Yep."

Server: "That'll be $1.04, eat here?" 

Me: "No, it's "TO-GO"  

At this point I open my billfold and hand him the $2 bill. He looks at it kind of funny and . . . 

Server: "Uh, hang on a sec, I'll be right back." 

He goes to talk to his manager, who is still within earshot. The following conversation occurs between the two of them: 

Server: "Hey, you ever see a $2 bill?" 

Manager: "No. A what?" 

Server: "A $2 bill. This guy just gave it to me." 

Manager: "Ask for something else, THERE'S NO SUCH THING AS A $2 BILL." 

Server: "Yeah, thought so." 

He comes back to me and says: 

Server: "We don't take these. Do you have anything else?" 

Me: "Just this fifty. You don't take $2 bills? Why?" 

Server: "I don't know." 

Me: "See here where it says legal tender?" 

Server: "Yeah." 

Me: "So, shouldn't you take it?" 

Server: "Well, hang on a sec." 

He goes back to his manager who is watching me like I'm going to shoplift. 

Server: "He says I have to take it." 

Manager: "Doesn't he have anything else?" 

Server: "Yeah, a fifty. I'll get it and you can open the safe and get change." 

Manager: "I'M NOT OPENING THE SAFE WITH HIM IN HERE." [My emphasis] 

Server: "What should I do?" 

Manager: "Tell him to come back later when he has REAL money." 

Server: "I can't tell him that, you tell him." 

Manager: "Just tell him." 

Server: "No way, this is weird, I'm going in back." 

The manager approaches me and says: 

Manager: "Sorry, we don't take big bills this time of night." [It was 8pm and this particular Taco Bell is in a well lighted indoor mall with 100 other stores.] 

Me: "Well, here's a two." 

Manager: "We don't take those either." 

Me: "Why the hell not?" 

Manager: "I think you know why." 

Me: "No really, tell me, why?" 

Manager: "Please leave before I call mall security." 

Me: "Excuse me?" 

Manager: "Please leave before I call mall security."

Me: "What the hell for?" 

Manager: "Please, sir." 

Me: "Uh, go ahead, call them." 

Manager: "Would you please just leave?" 

Me: "No." 

Manager: "Fine, have it your way then." 

Me: "No, that's Burger King, isn't it?" 

At this point he BACKS away from me and calls mall security on the phone around the corner. I have two people STARING at me from the dining area, and I begin laughing out loud, just for effect. A few minutes later this 45 year old-ish guy comes in and says [at the other end of counter, in a whisper]: 

Security: "Yeah, Mike, what's up?" 

Manager: "This guy is trying to give me some [pause] funny money." 

Security: "Really? What?" 

Manager: "Get this, a two dollar bill." 

Security: "Why would a guy fake a $2 bill?" [Incredulous] 

Manager: "I don't know? He's kinda weird. Says the only other thing he has is a fifty." 

Security: "So, the fifty's fake?" 

Manager: "NO, the $2 is." 

Security: "Why would he fake a $2 bill?" 

Manager: "I don't know. Can you talk to him, and get him out of here?" 

Security: "Yeah..." 

Security guard walks over to me and says: 

Security: "Mike here tells me you have some fake bills you're trying to use." 

Me: "Uh, no." 

Security: "Lemme see 'em." 

Me: "Why?" 

Security: "Do you want me to get the cops in here?" 

At this point I was ready to say, "SURE, PLEASE," but I wanted to eat, so I said: 

Me: "I'm just trying to buy a burrito and pay for it with this $2 bill." 

I put the bill up near his face, and he flinches like I was taking a swing at him. He takes the bill, turns it over a few times in his hands, and says 

Security: "Mike, what's wrong with this bill?" 

Manager: "It's fake." 

Security: "It doesn't look fake to me." 

Manager: "But it's a $2 bill." 

Security: "Yeah?" 

Manager: "Well, there's no such thing, is there?" 

The security guard and I both looked at him like he was an one-who-thinks-I-am-silly, and it dawned on the guy that he had no clue. My burrito was free and he threw in a small drink and those cinnamon things, too. Makes me want to get a whole stack of $2 bills just to see what happens when I try to buy stuff. If I got the right group of people, I could probably end up in jail. At least you get free food.

 

 

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