Guests - If You want access to member only forums on HSO. You will gain access only when you Sign-in or Sign-Up on HotSpotOutdoors.

It's easy - LOOK UPPER right menu.

  • RECEIVE THE GIFTS MEMBERS SHARE WITH YOU HERE...THEN...CREATE SOMETHING TO ENCHANT OTHERS THAT YOU WANT TO SHARE

    You know what we all love...

    When you enchant people, you fill them with delight and yourself in return. Have Fun!!!

bassfshin24

Degrease a new baitcaster?

Recommended Posts

I've heard from a lot of people that when you buy a new baitcaster you should remove some of the grease because most manufacturers put too much in there. How many people do this and how do you do it? What parts are usually over greased? I feel like I have a couple new reels that don't cast as well as they should and a lot of people I have talked to said they probably have too much grease in them. 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Hiya - 

Some manufacturers really do pack new reels with grease. Understandable, in a way, since they have to account for the fact that the Joe Six Pack type that are the majority of their customers perform reel maintenance once every never. Some mfgs are worse than others too. Abu Garcia tends to really pack in the grease. Lews kind of too. So it's real possible they are over-greased. 

I usually break down new reels and clean them up if it feels like they're dragging because they have too much grease. Lots of times the main gear and pinion gear and the pinion yoke will have globs of grease on them. Same with the levelwind. Sometimes the spool bearings will be over-oiled too. Sometimes seems like they actually paint the whole inside of the handle plate with grease.

 I  do a complete breakdown of reels during the offseason to clean and lube everything thoroughly. When I do that I don't repack some parts with grease, like the frame bearings for example. I oil them instead. You're kind of committing to maintaining them that way from then on in (frame bearings are grease packed from the factory because they kind of expect most guys won't take off the handle shaft to get to them) but I do it anyhow so why not? I do use a little heavier oil on frame bearings (and handle bearings) than I do on spool bearings though.

I just recently got an ultrasonic cleaner, ran bearings through it, and holy cow... lot of crud came out of them. And those were bearings I'd already cleaned the way I'd done it in the past... 

 

 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
19 hours ago, PropsterII said:

Robb, can you post a link to the ultra sonic cleaner you got, or just name the model?  Thanks

I think the brand is a Kendal or something like that. Got it off Amazon, fairly cheap. Has a timer, which is nice - I can set the time and go do something else without worrying about forgetting it's on - which is something I would totally do. It does work, but I can already see some features I wish it had. It'd be nice if it had a heated tank, for example. Hot water works better, and I'm always running to the sink for fresh water. I got a 1.3 litre model, and it's big enough for a couple reel frames plus the misc. odds and ends I just toss in the basket. For bearings and stuff like that I put them in glass jars filled with acetone and put the jars in the tank full of water. For the frames, I use a 20/80 Simple Green/water mix in the tank and just toss the parts in. Have to be careful with plastic parts and solvents like acetone, so I only use that on brass gears like the main gear, levelwind gear, etc., and bearings.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Thankis Rob. Can you expound on putting the bearings in jars with acetone and then putting the jars in the water?  Are you sealing the jar I assume and the purpose of putting it in the water is for the vibration?

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
17 hours ago, PropsterII said:

Thankis Rob. Can you expound on putting the bearings in jars with acetone and then putting the jars in the water?  Are you sealing the jar I assume and the purpose of putting it in the water is for the vibration?

Yup. The ultrasonic water tank is how the vibration gets transmitted to whatever is in the tank. I put parts I want to degrease or clean like bearings, levelwind and pinion gears, etc., in a tall skinny jar with acetone that's filled about to the level of the water in the tank (seems to work best that way). Between the acetone breaking down the old grease/oil and the ultrasonic rattling it loose, it gets cleaned. Ultrasonics actually work by creating microscopic air bubbles next to the surface of whatever you're cleaning which blasts away the crud - which is kind of cool when you think about it. Kind of amazing how much stuff comes off a set of bearings. The glass tubes I use are about an inch across, and sometimes after 10 minutes in the cleaner, you can't see through it.

For bigger parts like frames, handles, etc, or plastic stuff that might not react well to a solvent I use Simple Green/water and just toss them in the pool... 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Bass; Just a heads up/warning. Bait casters have numerous parts. Before you start be sure you have the schematic for each reel. AND!! Be patient!

 RK  Love the ultra sonic tank idea. May have to invest in one this year.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

I am very familar with taking a part a spinning reel for maintenance and re-lubing but I'm less confident when it comes to baitcasters. I always save the schematics. I have a broken down pflueger trion (my 1st baitcaster about 7 years ago) that I don't plan on using anymore, maybe I should experiment with that one to gain some confidence.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

If you can change a lightbulb without killing yourself you can take apart a reel.

Have a place to set things out and a system of some kind. I lay things out in a row in the order it came off in and orientation (up/down) kind of by major part (handle, drag/main gear, level wind) i use blue shop towels to set stuff on amd you can just write notes on the towel if you need to. Some guys use an old egg carton and put one part in each cup. I always take side plate screws off in the same order (counterclockwise starting at the top). If it's a reel you've never worked on, take pictures with you phone every so often. Lots of YouTube vids too. Tacklejunkie has some good ones.

Lots of brands are very similar too. Lews, Abu, pflueger and most bass pro reels are almost identical design-wise (and the easiest to work on IMO). 

Really, nothing leaps out at you when you take one apart. Go for it.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

I really need to learn how to break down and clean baitcasters. I think for my first (or every) try, I will fire up the GoPro and catch it on video so if (when) I screw something up, I can go to the video and see where I went wrong.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
2 hours ago, RK said:

If you can change a lightbulb without killing yourself you can take apart a reel.

Have a place to set things out and a system of some kind. I lay things out in a row in the order it came off in and orientation (up/down) kind of by major part (handle, drag/main gear, level wind) i use blue shop towels to set stuff on amd you can just write notes on the towel if you need to. Some guys use an old egg carton and put one part in each cup. I always take side plate screws off in the same order (counterclockwise starting at the top). If it's a reel you've never worked on, take pictures with you phone every so often. Lots of YouTube vids too. Tacklejunkie has some good ones.

Lots of brands are very similar too. Lews, Abu, pflueger and most bass pro reels are almost identical design-wise (and the easiest to work on IMO). 

Really, nothing leaps out at you when you take one apart. Go for it.

You make me feel more confident about taking one apart now! I'll give it a whirl

1 hour ago, thatoneguy said:

I really need to learn how to break down and clean baitcasters. I think for my first (or every) try, I will fire up the GoPro and catch it on video so if (when) I screw something up, I can go to the video and see where I went wrong.

That's not a bad idea! "Let's go to the tape..."

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

RK, I got a us cleaner. Wish it was a little deeper but I'll make it work. How do you reclaim or reuse either the Simple Gree/water or the acetone once you've done a reel or two and have all that crud in the liquid? Can you strain it thru a filter of some sort?

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Coffee filter seems to work ok. For the simple green I just dump it. Acetone, if it's really cruddy I'll ditch that too. Part of why I use small jars. I can try to look up where I got them, but I found these glass jars with silicone seal lids online at a science lab supply place. For bearings I use one of those that's tall and skinny - not much bigger around than the bearings, so it's about 1/3c of acetone is all. US seems to work best, btw, when the water level in the tank is about even with the acetone level in the jar. 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Got it, thanks guys.  After doing a few reels over the weekend, I guess you can pretty much tell when you want to dump vs trying to re-use it.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Create an account or sign in to comment

You need to be a member in order to leave a comment

Create an account

Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!

Register a new account

Sign in

Already have an account? Sign in here.

Sign In Now



  • Your Responses - Share & Have Fun :)

    • Last Thursday on a visit to my sister in Rock Rapids IA, we made a circuit through the Island Park there.  At the low dam just past the former railroad bridge which is now a walking path we saw a group of grackles fishing at the edge of the white water where it ran against the rocks at the shore line.  There probably were a dozen or so all told moving back and forth and some on the rocks at the other shore line.  In something like half an hour or less we saw various of the birds bring out minnows and eat them on the shore to a total of at least 8.  They also contested for the better fishing spots and tried to horn in on other birds' catches;   they would fly out to quite a bit up on shore with a catch to eat it there. I never expected to see grackles fishing.  I never heard of that before, but then it wouldn't be the first time I didn't know about something relatively common.
    • I've seen deer there, too.  I go by there on my way to work about 3:30 am S S & M.
    • Now they're gobbling...  seem to be getting a little closer.
    • Very quiet so far.  Maybe one distant gobble on the roost but couldn't tell for sure. At least the mosquitos seem to have calmed down in the last 10 minutes some. 
    • Brotha’ you got that right.   Actually I’m cooking hobos over the campfire in Ely right now.  Not a bad second fiddle.   I won’t be a cooking hobo in a blind this weekend. 
    • Hey, it happens.  Think I'm tilling the garden tonight and will chase turkeys in the morning.
    • I did 5/16" cedar and installed tight. Is there any finish on the cedar?
    • I gave it my last shot of the year this morning and I juked and the turkeys jived.  They have been rolling through the same spot for the last couple mornings and unfortunately went a different direction this morning.     That's it for me! Unfortunately I have obligations until the season is done now. Morgan, Logan, and I all finished with unpunched tags. Darn pea-brained birds won this time.
    • NORTHWEST IOWA FISHING REPORTS Arrowhead Lake
      Bluegill - Fair: As water continues to warm, look for bluegill nest colonies along the west and east shorelines; the highest concentration are likely in the southern end of the lake. Use a small tube jig tipped with a piece of crawler. Black Hawk Lake
      Water temperatures are around 70 degrees. Water clarity is 5-6 feet. Bluegill - Fair: Fish for bluegill just about anywhere along the shoreline. The fish average 7-8 inches. Use a small hair or tube jig with a small piece of crawler fished under a bobber off the floating fishing pier, the west stone pier, and the inlet bridge. Look for bluegills to start moving closer to shore, sitting on nests; you can easily target the males. Walleye - Fair: Anglers are picking up walleye from shore and by boat. Town Bay, the shoreline along Ice House Point, and near the inlet bridge are producing fish. Use leeches fished under a bobber and twisters on the downwind shoreline where walleye are feeding. Black Crappie - Slow: Anglers are still picking up fish from Ice House Point, the floating dock, the stone piers, and the inlet bridge. Catch fish up to 11 inches with crawlers and leeches fished under a bobber. Largemouth Bass - Good: Catch largemouth all over the lake using the traditional bass lures. Many anglers have found good bass action at the Ice House Point, the east shoreline,and the lake side of the inlet bridge.  Storm Lake (including Little Storm Lake)
      Water clarity is 3-4 feet. Storm Lake has a daily limit of 3 walleye and all 17- to 22-inch walleye must be released; no more than one walleye longer than 22 inches may be taken per day. Walleye - Fair: Much of the walleye action has shifted to the boat anglers. Boat anglers are doing well trolling shad raps or ripple shads or drifting crawler harnesses on the edges of the dredge cuts around the lake in about 8 feet of water. Black Crappie - Fair: Anglers are picking up suspended crappie out mid-lake in the dredge cuts while fishing for walleye. White Bass - Fair: Use crankbaits; most action has been from boat while fishing dredge cuts.  Swan Lake
      Water temperature is around 70 degrees. Water clarity is 3 feet. Bluegill - Fair: Use a small jig tipped with crawler along the dam and off the jetties. Most of the fish are 6-7 inches. Look for fish to move closer to shore and the males sitting on nests. Yellow Smoke Park Lake
      Bluegill - Fair: Find bluegill spawning in the arm north of the swim beach and in the coves along the south shore. Yellow Smoke is known for its big bluegill consistently reaching 9 inches or more.  Water temperatures in Black Hawk District lakes are around 70 degrees. Bluegill are starting to move close to shore in many lakes and ponds. For more information, contact the Black Hawk District office at 712-657-2638. Clear Lake
      Surface water temperature is 67 degrees. Black Crappie - Good: Crappies are biting. Use a small jig or a minnow in the rush beds and areas with vegetation. Walleye - Good: Try a slip bobber and leeches fished in the rocky reefs. Yellow Bass - Fair: Yellows bass are on the rocky areas to spawn. Use a small jig in the early morning. Channel Catfish - Fair: With recent rains, any spot where water is entering the lake is worth trying for catfish. Fish a dead chub or crawlers on the bottom. The best bite is late evening.  Crystal Lake
      Channel Catfish - Fair: Use nightcrawlers fished from shore. Walleye – Slow. Black Bullhead - Fair: Try nightcrawlers fished from shore. Bluegill – Slow: Bluegill are biting. Use a small piece of crawler and a bobber in 2 to 3 feet of water.  Lake Smith
      Largemouth Bass - Good: Largemouth bass are biting on a variety of baits. Bluegill – Fair. Rice Lake
      Largemouth Bass - Fair: Bass are biting on plastic baits. Bluegill - Fair: Use a small piece of crawler and a bobber in the edge of the vegetation.  Silver Lake (Worth)
      Largemouth Bass - Good: Largemouth bass are biting on plastic baits. Bluegill - Fair: Use a small piece of crawler and a bobber in 2 to 3 feet of water.  For information on the lakes and rivers in the north central area, contact the Clear Lake Fish and Wildlife office at 641-357-3517.  Center Lake
      Black Crappie - Fair: Cast mini jigs in shallow water wood habitat.  East Okoboji Lake
      Channel Catfish - Good: Use traditional baits in the evening. Black Crappie - Fair: Anglers report a panfish bite of bluegill and crappie from docks; sorting is needed. Walleye - Good: Report of anglers catching fish from the south end; best bite during the evening hours.  Five Island Lake
      Channel Catfish - Good: Use traditional baits during evening hours. Walleye - Fair: Action is picking up with numbers of angler acceptable size and larger being caught.  Lost Island Lake
      Walleye - Good: Walleye are being caught close to shore. Try fishing from a dock or wader fishing after dark. Black Crappie - Good: Reports of crappie and yellow perch being caught. Yellow Bass - Fair: Report of yellow bass being caught. Use small lures such as a twister tail or hair jigs.  Silver Lake (Palo Alto)
      Walleye - Fair: Report of large fish being caught during the late evening hours. Cast a white twister for the best action. Black Bullhead - Good: Good action reported of angler acceptable sized fish. Yellow Perch - Fair: Some activity reported.  Spirit Lake
      Marble Beach campground, including the boat ramp, is closed for the season for renovation. Smallmouth Bass - Good: Use a jig tipped with a minnow in shallow rock structures. Action is best during sunny, calm days. Black Crappie - Good: Fish the bulrush on the lake for spawning crappie. Cast a mini-jig and swim the bait slowly back to the boat to find active fish. Walleye - Good: Best action is during the night off the docks. Fish leeches under a bobber or cast a twister tail. Black Bullhead - Good: The bite has slowed at the north grade; persistence will be rewarded with good numbers of fish caught. Fish traditional baits on the bottom. Trumbull Lake
      Northern Pike - Fair: Use casting spoons below the spillway.  West Okoboji Lake
      Bluegill - Good: Wooden docks in deeper water and new aquatic growth will produce good numbers of angler acceptable sized fish.  For more information throughout the week, contact the Spirit Lake Fish Hatchery at 712-336-1840.