Randy Moss proclaims himself the greatest receiver of all time

[Slabasaurus]

Moss was great to watch, and made everyone think Culpepper was an ACTUAL quarterback....

Rice didn't have that issue... his qb's were typically legit NFL caliber players.

Moss's antics were entertaining to me, still are. Though, this latest video isn't as funny. It's more awkward than anything.

[DrJuice1980]

Medophorically is what "best ever" numbers ment. I did not say he has THE best ever numbers. +1 on the Emmit Smith remark, not even in my top 5. Maybe 9 or 10. Product of the system and O-Line. And same could be argued about Rice and that system. No doubt he ran the cleanest routes ever though.

[Antero]

If he is the greatest how can we explain him being cut, traded and basically run off teams. Seems to me the all time greatest player at his position would be prime merchandise and kept at a by a team forever. (or at least until his big time yrs are over ala Rice, Montana, Unitas etc).

[Pikester]

I think he is the best. He changed the way a defense covers WR's. Rice had Montana and Young his entire career. Moss had Brady for a few seasons. Culpepper was good for a couple of seasons and Cunningham had 1 good year. Rice had a good QB for a majority of his career. Just my opinion...

[fishersofmen]

If he is the greatest how can we explain him being cut, traded and basically run off teams. Seems to me the all time greatest player at his position would be prime merchandise and kept at a by a team forever. (or at least until his big time yrs are over ala Rice, Montana, Unitas etc).

I would agree. I think most people would also agree that Moss WAS the most "talented" receiver to ever play the game. Talent only goes so far though. There have been extremely talented guys in every sport where you just sit back and go....wow, but because of character issues and motivational issues they do themselves a huge disservice both socially and also professionally.

[PurpleFloyd]

He was more physically gifted that Rice was and if he were to have been put on the right team for as long as Rice did there is no reason to believe he would have broken all the records. He was dealt a bad hand in that Red McCombs decided to have a fire sale and dump his contract right before he sold the team and sent him to the Raiders. His attitude and maturity is where he really loses ground to Rice. But then again Rice was given a great set of owners and coaches and he had a heck of a team around him to compliment his talents.

I have no problem with what Randy said. Right up till 1998 I had never seen a WR do things that Rice was able to do. When 1998 rolled around we saw Randy do some things on the field that more than likely made Rice shake his head in amazement because there is no way on gods green earth that Rice could have dominated the game like Moss did when he came on the scene. The speed, the hands, the ability to go up and take the ball away from more than one defender and make it look effortless.

[mrklean]

if he were to actually try every play and not be so full of himself then yea he probably would have been close to the best ever, instead he is just one of the best deep threats ever

[PurpleFloyd]

What deep threat was better?

Yeah, he took plays off but really who could be expected to run 50-70 sixty yard dashes a game? And part of that was lulling the defender to sleep, setting them up to blow by them at some point.

One thing I will say is he did seem to disappear in the biggest games. He could have and should have had a big play in the second half of the 98 NFCCG but didn't . He was all but invisible during 41-0 and in the SB with the pats he didn't step up and put the game away when he had the chance. That even more than his attitude is the thing that I think holds him back in the conversation because in the biggest games Jerry did show up.

[FISHINGURU]

Moss is the greatest deep threat ever that's an easy one. Best receiver ever? Depends who you ask. Rice would run every route and had unmatched work ethic and Moss was just a freak of nature.

I'd love to see their careers reversed and see what the stats would be. Moss playing most his career on a dynasty 49er team with QB's like Montana and Young and excellent coaching. While Rice plays for the Vikings for most his career with QB's like Cunningham, Culpepper, and Johnson with mediocre coaching.

I hope Moss gets a ring this weekend, I'll always remember that guy shredding d-backs like they were going out of style. When the QB dropped back and you seen the wind up you knew it was gonna be a bomb to Randy and more then likely he'll be catching it no matter who or how many guys were on him. Blazing speed, monster vertical, one hand catches, no look catches, stopping on a dime, uncanny footwork to keep the feet in bounds. Good times

I like both guys though and have always like the 49ers since back in the day. I'm going for the 49ers, but I wouldn't be mad to see Ed Reed get himself a ring.

[traveler]

I'll always remember that guy shredding d-backs like they were going out of style. When the QB dropped back and you seen the wind up you knew it was gonna be a bomb to Randy and more then likely he'll be catching it no matter who or how many guys were on him. Blazing speed, monster vertical, one hand catches, no look catches, stopping on a dime, uncanny footwork to keep the feet in bounds.

thats it really...the guy was just awesome to watch. Best ever? That can be argued. But most talented HAS to go to him, hands down.

[toughguy]

The "Beset Ever" would have lead the NFL in receptions or rec. yards for at least 1 season don't you think???? I would say Moss was the most talented but not best ever. Saying this as a huge Vikings and Moss fan too. You Packer fans are just as prejudiced for your team too. Hutson? really? IALTO He has 1/3 the receiving yards that Rice does.

[Musky Buck]

He's so lucky he did his driving the wrong way up the one way with that every blue moon cigarette/thing in the ash tray, he was cheeched, that's why he was freaked out headin the wrong way, if he did that today he'd be really get lit up on twitter or espn, etc. Just re-read that post lit up that is Randy Moss. Just think how great he could've been and how much faster his feet would've moved if he laid off the hippie cabbage.

[Scott K]

I compare Moss to Mike Tyson. He was great, he changed how the sport was played. Had some great years, but, his attitude, mouth, and bursts of greatness hold them back from the greatest ever trophy.

[DrJuice1980]

1.Moss 2.Rice 3.T.Brown 4.Megatron 5.Largent 6-10 are a lot tougher but I would have to put CC in there somewhere

[nofishfisherman]

Just think how great he could've been and how much faster his feet would've moved if he laid off the hippie cabbage.

During my competetive running days I saw a lot of evidence that shows the hippie cabbage doesn't do anything to slow you down. If anything the evidence that I saw would say the exact opposite. I know several state and national champions that would blaze up before practice and sometimes races.

One guy smoked before every practice for a year and had the best season of his life and went undefeatd until late in the season. The next season he quit the hippie cabbage thinking it would only help him run faster, that year he put in the same amount of work and ran against similiar competition but for some reason he couldn't even qualify for finals any more. Only difference any of us could find between his best year ever and his worst year ever was that he quit the hippie cabbage.

[Antero]

The "Beset Ever" would have lead the NFL in receptions or rec. yards for at least 1 season don't you think???? I would say Moss was the most talented but not best ever. Saying this as a huge Vikings and Moss fan too. You Packer fans are just as prejudiced for your team too. Hutson? really? IALTO He has 1/3 the receiving yards that Rice does.[/quote

It was a different era, a lot less sophisticated and a lot less passing but he is shurely in the conversation. Note, he played d, kicked and led or was near the top the NFL in some stats just about every yr. And was a 2 time MVP.

Don Hutson Record.....

Appearances on Leader Boards, Awards, and Honors Stats are Year Lg Value (Rank/All-Time)

Awards

1941 NFL Joe F. Carr Trophy (MVP)

1942 NFL Joe F. Carr Trophy (MVP)

Pro Bowls

1939

1940

1941

1942

First-Team All-Pro

1938

1939

1940

1941

1942

1943

1944

1945

Receptions

1935 NFL 18 (6)

1936 NFL 34 (1)

1937 NFL 41 (1)

1938 NFL 32 (2)

1939 NFL 34 (1)

1940 NFL 45 (2)

1941 NFL 58 (1)

1942 NFL 74 (1)

1943 NFL 47 (1)

1944 NFL 58 (1)

1945 NFL 47 (1)

Career 488 (128)

Receiving Yds

1935 NFL 420 (3)

1936 NFL 536 (1)

1937 NFL 552 (2)

1938 NFL 548 (1)

1939 NFL 846 (1)

1940 NFL 664 (2)

1941 NFL 738 (1)

1942 NFL 1211 (1)

1943 NFL 776 (1)

1944 NFL 866 (1)

1945 NFL 834 (2)

Career 7991 (85)

Receiving TD

1935 NFL 6 (1)

1936 NFL 8 (1)

1937 NFL 7 (1)

1938 NFL 9 (1)

1939 NFL 6 (2)

1940 NFL 7 (1)

1941 NFL 10 (1)

1942 NFL 17 (1/5)

1943 NFL 11 (1)

1944 NFL 9 (1)

1945 NFL 9 (2)

Career 99 (9)

Long Reception

1935 NFL 83 (1)

1936 NFL 58 (2)

1937 NFL 78 (3)

1938 NFL 54 (3)

1939 NFL 92 (2/63)

1942 NFL 73 (1)

1943 NFL 79 (2)

1945 NFL 75 (3)

Yds/Reception

1936 NFL 15.8 (1)

1937 NFL 13.5 (3)

1938 NFL 17.1 (2)

1939 NFL 24.9 (1/14)

1940 NFL 14.8 (3)

1941 NFL 12.7 (5)

1942 NFL 16.4 (2)

1943 NFL 16.5 (7)

1944 NFL 14.9 (7)

1945 NFL 17.7 (7)

Career 16.4 (126)

Receiving Yds/Game

1935 NFL 46.7 (1)

1936 NFL 44.7 (1)

1937 NFL 50.2 (2)

1938 NFL 54.8 (1)

1939 NFL 76.9 (1)

1940 NFL 60.4 (2)

1941 NFL 67.1 (1)

1942 NFL 110.1 (1/10)

1943 NFL 77.6 (1)

1944 NFL 86.6 (1)

1945 NFL 83.4 (2)

Career 68.9 (19)

Touchdowns

1935 NFL 7 (1)

1936 NFL 9 (1)

1937 NFL 7 (1)

1938 NFL 9 (1)

1939 NFL 6 (5)

1940 NFL 7 (3)

1941 NFL 12 (1)

1942 NFL 17 (1/52)

1943 NFL 12 (1)

1944 NFL 9 (1)

1945 NFL 10 (2)

Career 105 (16)

Points Scored

1935 NFL 43 (2)

1936 NFL 54 (3)

1937 NFL 42 (5)

1938 NFL 57 (2)

1939 NFL 38 (7)

1940 NFL 57 (1)

1941 NFL 95 (1)

1942 NFL 138 (1/47)

1943 NFL 117 (1)

1944 NFL 85 (1)

1945 NFL 97 (2)

Career 823 (79)

Rushing/Receiving TD

1935 NFL 6 (1)

1936 NFL 8 (1)

1937 NFL 7 (1)

1938 NFL 9 (1)

1939 NFL 6 (5)

1940 NFL 7 (3)

1941 NFL 12 (1)

1942 NFL 17 (1/51)

1943 NFL 11 (2)

1944 NFL 9 (1)

1945 NFL 10 (2)

Career 102 (17)

Non-Offensive TDs

1935 NFL 1 (3)

1936 NFL 1 (2)

1943 NFL 1 (3)

Yds From Scrimmage

1935 NFL 442 (9)

1936 NFL 533 (9)

1937 NFL 578 (5)

1938 NFL 547 (4)

1939 NFL 872 (2)

1940 NFL 664 (3)

1941 NFL 760 (1)

1942 NFL 1215 (1)

1943 NFL 817 (2)

1944 NFL 953 (1)

1945 NFL 894 (3)

Career 8275 (162)

All-Purpose Yds

1935 NFL 442 (9)

1936 NFL 533 (9)

1937 NFL 578 (5)

1938 NFL 547 (4)

1939 NFL 872 (2)

1940 NFL 664 (3)

1941 NFL 768 (4)

1942 NFL 1215 (2)

1943 NFL 817 (7)

1944 NFL 953 (3)

1945 NFL 931 (6)

Yds/Touch

1942 NFL 15.8 (1)

1943 NFL 15.4 (1)

1944 NFL 13.6 (1)

Career 15.0 (87)

Extra Pt Made

1940 NFL 15 (3)

1941 NFL 20 (1)

1942 NFL 33 (1)

1943 NFL 36 (2)

1944 NFL 31 (3)

1945 NFL 31 (1)

Career 172 (125)

Extra Pt Att

1940 NFL 16 (3)

1941 NFL 24 (1)

1942 NFL 34 (1)

1943 NFL 36 (2)

1944 NFL 33 (3)

1945 NFL 35 (1)

Career 183 (124)

Extra Point %

Career 93.443% (159)

Total Field Goals Made

1942 NFL 1 (9)

1943 NFL 3 (1)

1945 NFL 2 (7)

Field Goals Att

1942 NFL 4 (10)

1943 NFL 5 (6)

1944 NFL 3 (9)

1945 NFL 4 (6)

Interceptions

1940 NFL 6 (1)

1942 NFL 7 (2)

1943 NFL 8 (3)

1944 NFL 4 (9)

1945 NFL 4 (6)

Career 30 (196)

Intercept. Ret. Yds

1942 NFL 71 (8)

1943 NFL 197 (1/80)

Intercept. Ret. TD

1943 NFL 1 (1)

Long Intercep. Return

1943 NFL 84 (3)

[Musky Buck]

I was really kidding nofish, look how fast basketball players are and that is hippie salad central from community college hoops to the big show. So hippie green you're saying is a performance enhancing drug ? And these athletes are fathering kids like mad, Nate Newton Bam Morris etc liked large volumes of it and Nater got busted twice. Just kidding really, Moss no doubt an excellent receiver, will he be fitted for a ring or will the football gods give the bounces of the game to Baltimore and Birk/McKinnie ?

[DrJuice1980]

You are compairing athletic ability over a span of 60 years, if todays average professional athlete were to go back in time it would be pretty scary how much they dominate. Today, Don Hutson wouldnt even make a practice squad. How can you say best ever? He is not even remotely close to this conversation, give me a break. There werent even players of color back in those days.

[bassfshin24]

I can't believe that people actually think Moss was better than Rice. Moss had a few good years and that was it! Like people said before he probably is the greastest deep threat receiver of all time but not best receiver of all time. Rice was just all around great. Route runner, smart football player, and class act. Jerry Rice stands alone at the top!

[Musky Buck]

No doubt really Randy had 1 play to learn in the playbook, the fly pattern and I saw him drop plenty in his career especially once he left MN and he rarely ever "fought" for the ball, if underthrown he wouldn't turn defender and prevent the pick.

[solbes]

What this has all proven to me is that Moss is a genius. He knows he wasn't the greatest ever. But look at how much national conversation he's created. Much of it about himself, which of course is what motivates #18/84.

Reminds me of the "straight cash homey", the greatest mooning ever, and all of the pouting he did.

[bassfshin24]

I think you're over thinking his comment. I really do think he thinks he is the greatest of all time. But dont look at numbers

[mallardnwalleye]

Rice #1

Moss #2 and the greatest waste of physical talent ever as he could have been #1 for a long long time if his work ethic and mind was what Rice's was. Sorry Randy you haven't earned #1..... so shut the

[Antero]

You are compairing athletic ability over a span of 60 years, if todays average professional athlete were to go back in time it would be pretty scary how much they dominate. Today, Don Hutson wouldnt even make a practice squad. How can you say best ever? He is not even remotely close to this conversation, give me a break. There werent even players of color back in those days.

Next you will tell me that the 27 Yanks are not in the conversation for the best baseball team ever.

[fishersofmen]

What this has all proven to me is that Moss is a genius. He knows he wasn't the greatest ever. But look at how much national conversation he's created. Much of it about himself, which of course is what motivates #18/84.

You can't be serious with this can you.........