Guests - If You want access to member only forums on HSO. You will gain access only when you Sign-in or Sign-Up on HotSpotOutdoors.

It's easy - LOOK UPPER right menu.

  • Announcements

    • Rick

      Members Only Fluid Forum View   08/08/2017

      Fluid forum view allows members only to get right to the meat of this community; the topics. You can toggle between your preferred forum view just below to the left on the main forum entrance. You will see three icons. Try them out and see what you prefer.   Fluid view allows you, if you are a signed up member, to see the newest topic posts in either all forums (select none or all) or in just your favorite forums (select the ones you want to see when you come to Fishing Minnesota). It keeps and in real time with respect to Topic posts and lets YOU SELECT YOUR FAVORITE FORUMS. It can make things fun and easy. This is especially true for less experienced visitors raised on social media. If you, as a members want more specific topics, you can even select a single forum to view. Let us take a look at fluid view in action. We will then break it down and explain how it works in more detail.   The video shows the topic list and the forum filter box. As you can see, it is easy to change the topic list by changing the selected forums. This view replaces the traditional list of categories and forums.   Of course, members only can change the view to better suit your way of browsing.   You will notice a “grid” option. We have moved the grid forum theme setting into the main forum settings. This makes it an option for members only to choose. This screenshot also shows the removal of the forum breadcrumb in fluid view mode. Fluid view remembers your last forum selection so you don’t lose your place when you go back to the listing. The benefit of this feature is easy to see. It removes a potential barrier of entry for members only. It puts the spotlight on topics themselves, and not the hierarchical forum structure. You as a member will enjoy viewing many forums at once and switching between them without leaving the page. We hope that fluid view, the new functionality is an asset that you enjoy .
Sign in to follow this  
Slow Jigger

Flourocarbon line???

Recommended Posts

It's a type of line. I tried some a couple years ago, Berkely brand I think. My impression was it was a relatively weak line that seemed to deteriorate fast. Maybe somebody else has had better experiences with it, but I wouldn't recommend it.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Yes, it is a type of line, not a brand name. Many manufacturers offer it. Berkley markets it by the name "Vanish," but there are many others.

Fluorocarbon lines do seem to be less visible to fish, based on research shown in several leading fishing magazines. I also know that it's less visible to ME in the water. If I'm in clear water, I'll frequently add fluoro to mono, either with a blood knot or ball-bearing swivel tying them together.

Fluoro is more abrasion resistant than most mono, especially limp mono, but be sure you lubricate your knots and leave a little extra tag end, since fluoro is stiffer than most mono.

I fish most often with 6, 10 and 14 mono while ice fishing, and I have small spools of the corresponding strength fluoro lines to use for leaders. It costs a fair amount, so I simply buy the small spools and use it as leader material. No reason to put 200 yard on your reel as backing, because that's a waste.

A note: I never spool with fluoro only. It's like using Berkley XT with a HUGE memory problem, it's so stiff, and is asking for line twist on spinning reels especially.

Does F help me catch more fish? That's hard to say. There are so many variables in any fish equation that trying to pin down a single aspect is like asking how many angels can dance on the head of a pin. I use it because I believe it makes a difference, but if I was short the few dollars a small spool costs, I'd forget the fluoro and by bait instead.

[This message has been edited by stfcatfish (edited 01-29-2003).]

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

I use the F-line as a 2 ft. leader and have very little trouble with it except when I want to use the 2lb. test stuff hard to see especially with bifocal lens. I usually use the 6 lb stuf and have used the 10 lb. in the past. I like it

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Guest   
Guest

Thats all I use for my snells.
The problem people have is exactly what stf said- you ABSOLUTELY HAVE TO wet the line before you cinch the knot or it will break VERY easily. I would never spool up with it because of the reasons stated, but there is no better line in my opinion to use as leader/snell material.

------------------
>"////=<
Gull Guide Service
fishingminnesota.com/gullguide
Brainerd-Mille Lacs-Willmar
Bemidji-Ottertail

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

I use a 2 foot-6 lb Flouro leader on all of my winter walleye rods. I tried the Berkley and Stren stuff and hated it. I bought some Seagaur stuff this year and love it! The trick that I have found is to only tie palomar knots with it.
One thing I have noticed is that it has a lot of stretch. I use a 8 lb Fireline main line, so the extra stretch in the leader is nice, but I think that if you had a whole spool of it you would be quickly frustrated!

------------------
Wables

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Guest   
Guest

I've given the two top manufacturers Floro's a try and they are too brittle or you have to worry about "special handling" all of the time.

I noticed this Floro line begins peeling apart after a short time, it's almost like fine hair that peels off and there's a kind of center (or core) in this line.

I think I lost 5 BIG 'Eyes in a row on the Rainy River before I ripped the line off of two reels and spooled up with my tried and true favorite, Tournament Strength Trilene lo-vis Green.

I won't use any other Mono, even for leaders or harnesses. I just match the right line strength with my targeted species of fish and conditions.

------------------
Chells

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

I use Vanish on all my reels both summer and winter. I does exactly what I need it to do. I would probably use P-Line but Vanish is cheaper and gives me what I neeed in a line. I am a believer in flourocarbon line, it makes a difference.

Low-Vis, Perfect Stretch & Very Abrasion Resistant!

If your knots are slipping or breaking you are tying the wrong knot. A palomar or trilene knot will do just fine.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Guest   
Guest

Visibility of line is an argueable point. I read an article by some pro or another that made a good point -
Fish are stupid. They don't reason and have limited conditioned responses to repeated stimuli. They also have instincts. A piece of fishing line has never threatened their territory, tried to eat them or their spawn, and isn't food - so it's not an issue. (paraphrased)

I like mono for the knot dependibility and I like superbraid for sensitivity. Haven't like fused so far.

------------------
<)/////><{
RobertC

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

I agree with Scott. I spool at leat one or two reels with 6lb vanish. It has its place, especially when fish are extra spooky and in clear water.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

You have to remember that Flourocarbon line was originally used for Saltwater fishing. This being said of course it won't last long, mainly for the fact that Saltwater guys change rigs every trip. And if you've fished in Saltwater you know there are toothy-critters all around to help you in changing your rigs. As far as using Vanish as a line for icefishing, I warn against spooling up with it as it likes to unravel off of spools. All the twirling of the spool must make it dizzy so it falls off.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

I like using small buckshot rattle spoons and size 2 raps and 1/8 oz. jigging spoons for perch and walleye infested waters. I use 1-4 yellow fireline to a stainless barrel swivel and a 3' section Seguar Carbon Ice 4lb. test. so far so good. I change my leader each time I venture out.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Vanish jumps off the spool, just the way I like it. It allows you to get up and down quick. I don't recommend using more then 6 or 8 on a spinning reel. I use 2 lb on my panfish rods in the winter, 4 lb in the summer. 4 & 6 on my walleye rods in the winter, 8 in the summer. 10 lb on my linecounters & leadcore & for tying spinners. 8 lb for snells, tip-up leaders and handline snells. It is great all around line. I have found it to be incredilably abrasion resistant, the benefits are numerous.

RobertC-Fish my be dumb but they still out smart me occasionally.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

ScottS wrote: "Fish my be dumb but they still out smart me occasionally"

Then it is me (doh, wink.gif) They've been outsmarting me regularly lately.

I am glad that spooling Vanish works for some of you guys, but I have had nothing but the troubles STF and Gull Guide stated. Great for snells and leaders though.

Spike

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

I use 20lb Vanish leaders on my tip-ups and it works great. I have had very few pike bite offs and the walleye don't seem to notice the heavy diameter.

It does have the splitting characteristics mentioned earlier.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Guest   
Guest

ScottS & Spike,
I'm outsmarted more often than not as well. wink.gif
I was saying that fish aren't afraid of fishing line, and maybe - just maybe - "invisible line is more helpful in catching anglers than it is in catching fish.

------------------
<)/////><{
RobertC

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Guest
This topic is now closed to further replies.
Sign in to follow this  



  • Posts

    • My buddy does the same always revs the four wheeler up before he leaves. On his sits he would have someone else drive him in bait while he gets in the stand they rev the four wheeler and take off. Dinner bell come and get it
    • No clue yet somewhere with a cheap motel and some public land
    • Who's ready for the season? Cant wait!
    • After a while we only started hunting evening because we never had any come in the AM. We also started making a bit of noise when baiting (rattling cans) when we had two Bears working. They started coming in right after we baited so the bait, after noon and stay behind hunter seemed to work pretty well.
    • sorta helps, I'll find it...  thanks... me and google just got it.....     have to go see!!
    • Hall of Fame? You must be joking...... Every player starts out like that. No one starts out with a 23 m dollar contract. He still averaged about 15 million per year for his career, that average probably goes up if he plays past 2018. I think he will be ok.
    • Joe was also the 74th highest paid player the year he won the MVP. You may say he is over paid now but he was underpaid 1st half of his career. @Bobby Bass   I don't think Joe is a future Hall of Famer, not even close to borderline but a great player none the less. I think if the Twins would have made a deeper playoff runs back when Morneau was healthy and Santana was Cy-young would have helped. But Joes playoff numbers are terrible. I could maybe see HOF if he would have stayed at catcher his entire career though..... But he will more than likely end up winning a gold glove at 2 positions, and with one being catcher that is pretty elite.
    • Big Dave most if not all pro contracts are paying you for what you have already done with the hope that you will continue to produce. Looking at todays contract Joe's is not to out of line for a future Hall of Famer
    • Great! He is finally earning a contract close to what he is being paid. 
    • thx.  directions are on the site below. just across river from college    http://www.munsingerclemens.com/the-gardens/munsinger-gardens 2 areas, up top and down by river
  • Our Sponsors