Guests - If You want access to member only forums on HSO. You will gain access only when you Sign-in or Sign-Up on HotSpotOutdoors.

It's easy - LOOK UPPER right menu.

  • Announcements

    • Rick

      Members Only Fluid Forum View   08/08/2017

      Fluid forum view allows members only to get right to the meat of this community; the topics. You can toggle between your preferred forum view just below to the left on the main forum entrance. You will see three icons. Try them out and see what you prefer.   Fluid view allows you, if you are a signed up member, to see the newest topic posts in either all forums (select none or all) or in just your favorite forums (select the ones you want to see when you come to Fishing Minnesota). It keeps and in real time with respect to Topic posts and lets YOU SELECT YOUR FAVORITE FORUMS. It can make things fun and easy. This is especially true for less experienced visitors raised on social media. If you, as a members want more specific topics, you can even select a single forum to view. Let us take a look at fluid view in action. We will then break it down and explain how it works in more detail.   The video shows the topic list and the forum filter box. As you can see, it is easy to change the topic list by changing the selected forums. This view replaces the traditional list of categories and forums.   Of course, members only can change the view to better suit your way of browsing.   You will notice a “grid” option. We have moved the grid forum theme setting into the main forum settings. This makes it an option for members only to choose. This screenshot also shows the removal of the forum breadcrumb in fluid view mode. Fluid view remembers your last forum selection so you don’t lose your place when you go back to the listing. The benefit of this feature is easy to see. It removes a potential barrier of entry for members only. It puts the spotlight on topics themselves, and not the hierarchical forum structure. You as a member will enjoy viewing many forums at once and switching between them without leaving the page. We hope that fluid view, the new functionality is an asset that you enjoy .
Sign in to follow this  
sparetime

Potty training question, sort of

Recommended Posts

Second of two posts today about the pup. He is 7 months old, stays in kennel in the garage with an outdoor run. One leash walk and one off leash run per day, except when really cold. Then its just an off leash run.

I do some woodwork, so on the weekend I am out in the garage. On the weekend, I will let the puppy out for 10-15 minutes, then let him in to roam around the garage. The problem is, he comes back in and [PoorWordUsage] on the garage floor. Generally, he does not get to roam the garage during the week, Its outside for business and then back in during the week.

This Saturday for example, he was let out, let back in and [PoorWordUsage] on the floor, scolded him and put him outside for 10 minutes or so, then let him back in and within 2 minutes he peeded on the floor. Now my Blood Pressure was 300/200 and he was scolded, probably a little harshly, then placed in the kennel.

Any ideas on how to get across that he shouldn't be doing his business in the garage. I successfully house trained a previous dog, but in that case the dog was in the house supervised most of the time. The current puppy is let outside or in the kennel. I do see problems with this beyond my garage. When on hunting trips, I would like him to be trusted in hotels, or other places where he shouldn't relieve himself. Living in the house isn't an option currently.

Any thoughts?

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

When you house broke him, did he understand that also meant the garage too. Maybe he just doesn't know that the garage is off limits if he does not get out and be able to roam free inside of much. I would say to go through the potty training routine with the garage as well.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

if hes eliminated on the floor before, he may associate the odor with a place that he can go to the bathroom. usually, at least with my pup, she goes in the same place outside everytime. pee's in one spot, and [PoorWordUsage]'s in another. just keep an eye on him when you bring him in, and when he starts to squat, give him a firm NO and haul his [PoorWordUsage] outside. he should get the idea rather quickly that the garage floor is off limits as well! and when he squats, and you haul him outside, give him praise just like you were originally potty training him when he goes outside.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Sparetime,

I hope you don't mind me joining your post, but my 2 year old lab is kind of doing the same thing to me in her kennel run.

She gets exercised regularly. I let her out at around 10pm to relieve herself in the woods behind the house and let her out in the morning between 6:30 and 7:00. But periodically she has an accident sometime during the night.

I don't know why, I thought maybe because I did not let here out early enough, but that did not turn out to be the problem, she would still do it before 6:30 somedays.

My last lab could hold it for over 12 hours if she had to and would not mess her living space.

I have made her space smaller by sliding the dog house up to the door of the kennel and leaving her only enough room to drink and eat and I thought that would help but then she peed her kennel anyway a couple of days in a row. Then she would be fine so I started to make her space bigger alittle bit each day. Then all of the sudden one day she peed and took a dump again during the night.

I don't get it.

I thought that maybe she has a bladder problem?

But she does not do it on a regular basis.

Any tips would be appreciated.

Thanks.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Mine had very few 'accidents' anywhere but several months after his last he lifted leg and pizzed on a support pole at work, which has a concrete floor. Think maybe its tough for them to distinguish between outside and a garage/shed with concrete or cement - no expert here.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

if hes eliminated on the floor before, he may associate the odor with a place that he can go to the bathroom. usually, at least with my pup, she goes in the same place outside everytime. pee's in one spot, and [PoorWordUsage]'s in another. just keep an eye on him when you bring him in, and when he starts to squat, give him a firm NO and haul his [PoorWordUsage] outside. he should get the idea rather quickly that the garage floor is off limits as well! and when he squats, and you haul him outside, give him praise just like you were originally potty training him when he goes outside.

This covers it, it is realy the only way to get it done, rubbing the nose ect. doesn't matter. It takes repitition just like anything for the training of the dog. The key as said is to get to them quickly. It is offten said you have 7 seconds max in a pups mind for a corection to be reinforced. If you get after them a hr later it has no effect but making the dog confused and timid at the site of you. If you dont catch it right away it's best to chalk it up as a missed opertunity and try to set up the senerio next time. Prety soon NO, will have them stopping and going towards the door.Many young dogs just don't have the capasity to hold it longer either, and when they go out, they get distracted by many noises, cars people sents ect. so you have to just make sure it is out long enough for it to register" OH I gota pizz". It is not uncommon for a dog to do this in a strange place either, but if it is trained at home, useualy only 1 correction is needed. They simply don't know where they are or are not allowed in new places. So even when you get him or her to not go in the garage, they may go a time or to when introduced to the house. And some dogs just take longer to develope that controll. All part of life with the dog. You will get through it. Just stay calm. I have had some take a year and some take a day. Good luck

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Create an account or sign in to comment

You need to be a member in order to leave a comment

Create an account

Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!

Register a new account

Sign in

Already have an account? Sign in here.

Sign In Now

Sign in to follow this  



  • Posts

    • Had a decent trip.  We fished the evening of Aug. 9-Aug. 15.  Had 2 pretty good days, 2 bad days, and the rest were just so-so.  Dad, Uncle, and Grandpa don't like getting up early anymore so we usually outdrink the fish at night and sleep in mornings.   We have slowly been learning how to consistently catch fish on this lake.  The local guys don't provide any information and neither do the guys that have been making the trip for 20+ years.  Can't say I blame them much, but would have shortened the learning curve for us a little bit.  We found a bay a few years back that we can catch 10-16" walleye all day in, just a shallow weedy bay pulling spinners.  Usually get enough eyes' for dinner and then go search the reefs, shorelines, and islands for bigger fish.   I think we finally dialed in on some bottom bouncers and have 2-3 spots were we can go and most likely catch fish with the chance at some big ones.  1oz to 1-1/2oz BB with leeches or worms work the best on these spots.  2 spots are reefs topping out at 9-10fow and the other spot is a little flatter, with access to some shallow weeds.  We also deep troll suspended fish some evenings and don't catch a lot, but the ones we do are bigger fish.  We found iwe caught more fish when we were running and gunning.  Fish a spot for 20-30 minutes and then move on until we found some fish.  This kind of stinks for Grandpa but he understands we can't catch them if they are there and active. Biggest of the week was 26 1/4" walleye with 20-25 eyes' over 20".  I think I had 2 -25" and also a 37" pike the last evening.  Really fun time and scenery with the family.  Looking forward to next year and searching more of the lake.
    • Not a cowbird. We have several around here and they are generally dark-black grey and brown. The pictured bird almost looks as though it could be an immature yellow headed blackbird. Cowbirds are quite reclusive and we have been surprised they come out to our feeders, but they have become pretty regular customers. Like the deer that graze in the front yard. Last night we had the buck, doe and twin fawns and even though we talked softly to them they did not spook,  but seemed to simply acknowledge our presence on the deck and continued to feed. And of course, as usual, the black squirrels are gathering all MY walnuts!  darn.....I just can't win. The chipmunks eat my strawberries, deer eat tomato plants and squirrels eat my walnuts. I'm left with this old bottle of Beefeaters, a small bottle of vermouth and a few olives in a jar.  Things are tough out here in the wilderness.
    • Quincey should be a solid guy. I don't recall watching him play, but by looking at his stats over the years it appears to be an upgrade over Scandella.
    • Just looked up the yellow. Definitely not, no white on wings and way too yellow. And all the pictures of a cowbird on Google don't show a cowbird with the rusty colored ring on it's back.
    • Spending most of my time in Dallas these days due to my job.  Will be fishing the Otter County Area in a couple of weeks.  Can't wait!  Just wondering what you guys are seeing?  I am assuming the Bass are in and will be in their late summer patterns which to me means that you could find 'em anywhere.  One of the questions my friend had (I guess watching KVD in Elite Series and  Major League fishing -- I think his recent win on the Elite Series on St Lawrence River was mainly a drop shot) was jerk baits for this time of year.  Frankly, I use mostly jigs and plastics.  Watching KVD, I think I should give jerk baits more a try.
    •  It looks yellow in the bad picture but it's a very rusty medium brown. Definatly in the blackbird family though I think. I need a decent camera. Eye guy, you told me about a not too expensive digital camera with a good zoom lens didn't you? I don't think that's it. The ring on its back is the same rust color. 
    • Think so...!  Yaller headed B bird, like the Duffster said.   https://www.allaboutbirds.org/guide/Yellow-headed_Blackbird/id
    • Yellow headed blackbird?
    • It looks way to light brown to be a cowbird but I see nothing else in my bird book it could be??? I know this is a bad picture but it's the best I can do. The thing is so tame I can almost walk right up to it and it never goes away for long.
    • Thanks for the replies. I am going to get a box of 1 3/4 #5's and a box of 1 3/4 #6's and pattern them against what I have been shooting, Hope to get that done when I go up to mow my trails this fall, whenever I can free up some time to go. I will post some results.
  • Our Sponsors