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I have no experience what so ever with winchester, but own two savage rifles with the accutrigger. I would go with the new savage.

This weekend I was squirrel hunting in NE IA and made a 75 yard headshot off the top of a ridge and hit the squirrel. it was the second shot because I forgot to aim low on extreme angle shots, but without that accutriger, i couldn't have made that shot. Granted I was using my 17hmr and you are looking at a 223, but my 243 accutrigger is a great trigger as well. Savage usually has pretty accurate barrels as well. My savage 243 is not the prettiest dog in gunsafe, but it is pretty accurate....

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One has to remember that the military does not shoot the same guns we do from those companies.

I have a friend that was in charge of the sniper groups in Germany. he told me that every sniper has a gun built to fit them and they do alot of extra work to these snipers guns to get them to shoot the longer distances.

Now I am talking about the sniper rifles.

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The rifle that Vince uses (the guy that I know) is an off the shelf bolt action rifle. He has that much faith in Savage Arms.

I forgot to mention that he's retired from the USMC. Didn't mean to sound like he was still active.

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I have a 12 Series Varmint Savage .223 w/accu trigger. Best varmint rifle I've owned, most expensive too but you pay for what you get these days. It's a definate tack driver and would recommend one to anyone looking to kill coyotes and down. Also works well for sniping does for a one shot kill. smile

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