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Auger Oil mix

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Does anyone have an idea of what the oil/gas mix ratio would be for a 3hp Ice King auger, model 1111.? Looks like its a Tecumseh 2 stroke motor from the 70's. Also any recommendations for oil brand to use or is my boat motor oil fine?

Your help is most appreciated!

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I use up my boat gas im my 3hp jiffy, 10 yrs old and still goin strong. thats 50/1, I think 32/1 is recomended...?

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I tried that one oil covers all mixture ratios ( can't remember the name of it ) last year on my lazer mag and had no problems. Used it on my little 2 stroke roto tiller too without a problem. I bought the stuff at Ace Hardware. It comes in packets in sizes for mixing up one gallon. Just a gallon of gas and one packet of this stuff and your good to go. No measuring or gas/oil ratios to remember.

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Just checked the book for my Jiffy Ledgend. 24 to 1. It is the same on all Tecumseh motors.

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I've got a 2hp Strikemaster w/ the Tecumseh engine - bought last year. It requires 24:1.

Look closely at your unit - somewhere on it there might be a label telling you what the ratio is.

As far as a brand of oil, I get mine at Fleet Farm in the pre-measured plastic pouches - I think the brand-name is "Stearns". I use this brand in all my 2-cycle equipment (chain saw, brush cutter, etc).

UG

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If you like the oil stains from your muffler to get all over everything, use 24:1. If you like less of that, use 32:1. I have been running my Lazer Mag since I got it on 32:1 and no problemo. I know it says 24:1 but....and since it's not water cooled, I don't recommend 50:1 at all. My 2 cents....T

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I use some place between 24/1 & 50/1 with premium gas. Closer to 50/1 unless your hogging through a lot of deep ice.

I also add a good dose of Sta-Bil and a shot of Sea Foam to the pre-mix in a 1 gallon jug. Ice-Blue oil is cheep but burns very clean, I use it a lot.

About 99.9% of all ice auger problems are from crappy untreated gas and a gummed up carb. This will keep you running like a champ.

For me I get better cold weather starts, keep a cleaner plug, and have faster starts and far less complications.

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I run at 32-1 as T-Bone mentioned, and also run Seafoam as Backwater Eddy mantioned.

I use the 32-1 pouches of oil that I get at fleet farm.

That oxygenated fuel that is in most gasp pumps now can really make a snotty mess in the carb. The seafoam prevents that, and also stabilizes the gas.

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I have had folks tell me to only use premium gas in the auger because it don't contain alcohol. I have my doubts about that. Can anyone confirm the premium gas verus reg. gas use?

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Well, let me preface this by saying that I am a big proponent of ethanol and always make a point to put the 10% ethanol gas in my car. HOWEVER...on the smaller motors, where you need to mix the gas and oil, I have found that the motors tend to run considerably better on the premium gas.

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Some stations will have a premium pump that is labeled as non-oxygenated fuel.

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Backwater Eddy does your auger have a different smell to it when you use sta-bil and seafoam?? I just recently mixed some fresh gas and the first time out it really smelt different than the normal 2-stroke, I to mixed in sta-bil and seafoam. I mix 24:1 in my jiffy 3hp. legend.

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Thanks for your replys guys! This forum and its members are the best.
I went with Mr.Ed's suggestions and mixed a concoction of 35ish:1 oil/premium-gas and added a shot of stabil and a couple shots of seafoam. I swear I heard the ole motor saying "OOHH Baby, I Likey". Course I did spend a little time playing chemist over the top of the gas can. Should have enough medicine in the mix to keep the auger snorting at -30 degrees.

Thanks again for the help guys. Now, lets go fishin!

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Yup, all the Tecumseh 2- and 3-hp auger motors I've heard of recommend 24-1, with 32-1 acceptable on NMMA approved 2-cycle oils. Many brands are NMMA approved, it says so on the container. I've been running by Strikemaster XL-3000 on 32-1 mix with premium gas since I've had it. I figure the leaner mix with the detergents in premium gas will keep things from gumming up, and you can't beat the performance of high octane gas.

By the way, I've got a buddy who swears by synthetic oils in all his 2- and 4-stroke motors, and I do live in the headquarter town for Amsoil. Think I'll give it a try this season. He says it's smoother running and better gas mileage with all motors.

Anyway, if you're in doubt on that older motor and can't find any info for that era, go with 24-1. That should be plenty rich.

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I don't notice any odd smell really? But I am a catfisherman and odd may mean a whole different thing to me? I do on a ethinol fuel mix for sure. I try not to use ethonol on my mixed fuels.

As far as the treating of fuels with the Sea-Foam and Sta-bill keep it just as they recomend, maybe a touch less if you use both combined.

Late in the season when you may be punching through deeper ice and lugging a bit more be sure not to get the mix too thin with oil. You may get hot spots on your cylinder walls and scorch a piston if you do, ya don't need that Eh.

As long as you keep you cutting edges up to par, and your not forcing things, you should not stress out a motor with a slightly leaner mix.

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I'll stick with the 24:1 until the warranty is up.

Also, I have been known to drill about 50 holes in succession through the 2 feet of ice our Mn Lakes get...She gets pretty warm...

PCG

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If you use a good premium oil you can use the mix ratio listed on the oil itself. Such as 50-1. If you use a cheap oil you saved a few penneys on you should use 24-1. But if you use to much oil you run the risk of creating to much carbon buildup and causing the piston rings to stick. Premium chainsaw oil such as Stihl or Husqvarna is designed to protect engines that turn at 12-15,000 rpms. It will sure protect your auger turnig a couple of thousand rpms. grin.gif

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Hey Quick:

That's a good idea. I've got lots of Stihl 2-cycle oil laying around for the Stihl I keep at the lake. Might be worth trying, although I just filled the gas can and am still trying to burn up a whole can (2.5 gallons) for the auger in one season.

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I just add the 5.33 oz. bottle of JIFFY OIL to one gallon of gas, as recommended on the bottle. Also, the JIFFY OIL comes complete with fuel stabilizer. One bottle, no mess, no fuss!!

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Anybody tried the smokeless oil? It sure would be nice if it worked, but I'm a little skeptical of things that seem too good to be true.

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