Guests - If You want access to member only forums on HSO. You will gain access only when you sign-in or Sign-Up on HotSpotOutdoors.

It's easy - LOOK UPPER right menu.

Sign in to follow this  
Followers 0
walleyepro

Walleyes - DEEP CLEAR Lake in September

14 posts in this topic

In-laws new cabin is on a very deep (110ft), very clear lake & cold, with very sparse weeds in norther MN with a good walleye population. I can find the walleyes in less than 30 feet and get them to bite in the spring through the end of July and again in the late fall on jigs/lindys/crankbaits without too much of a problem.

In the Summer the problem is that I can't find them half the time and when i do find them only little ones bite. How deep do they go and how can i catch them. I'll be up again over Labor Day. Are they suspended over 50-100 feet or where do they go?

The lake gets a lot of local pressure in the spring and then no one fishes it the rest of the year. Where can i find them? i dont have experience fishing this kind of lake.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Clear lakes say to me... low light times or night fishing. JMO

Main lake deep cranking also with lead core would be another option.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

In spring and fall night fishing is the way to go, but now i can't even find them at night. I'm talking 9pm - 3am. How deep is deep when you're talking lead core? Would a 3-way with a big 2-3 oz drop work as well to get down deep? I've tried looking for fish in the 30-60 range and dont really mark much.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Well not that I know what am talking about, but this year every thing has been backwards for me. So if I think I should fish deep I fish shallow and it has paid off pretty good this year for me. Just an idea.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

I fish a lake very similar to what you are talking about 22 ft water clarity and max depth of 80 ft. Because I do not live on this lake I am very rarely out there late at night but I can tell you coming off the lake at dark and even during the day the fish are stacked either in 40-50 fow on the bottom or suspended at 40-50ft over the deeper hole. I have talked with many of the people that live on the lake and they catch all their big walleyes trolling at night in the 40-50 ft either on bottom or suspended. Trick is figuring out how to get your bait to that depth, as you mentioned 3 ways is one option, lead core, snap weights or the deepest running crank you can find draggin couple hundred feet behind the boat. Just troll off one of the breaks into deeper water and watch your graph. You will find the fish out there in deeper water. If you don't have a good graph it will be more of a challenge.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

I fish a lake very similar to what you are talking about 22 ft water clarity and max depth of 80 ft. Because I do not live on this lake I am very rarely out there late at night but I can tell you coming off the lake at dark and even during the day the fish are stacked either in 40-50 fow on the bottom or suspended at 40-50ft over the deeper hole. I have talked with many of the people that live on the lake and they catch all their big walleyes trolling at night in the 40-50 ft either on bottom or suspended. Trick is figuring out how to get your bait to that depth, as you mentioned 3 ways is one option, lead core, snap weights or the deepest running crank you can find draggin couple hundred feet behind the boat. Just troll off one of the breaks into deeper water and watch your graph. You will find the fish out there in deeper water. If you don't have a good graph it will be more of a challenge.

2 words: Down riggers.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

i have a 16ft old aluminum boat. would down riggers work on my boat?

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Yes, but expensive. Look into snapweights, that would be your best option IMO. Invest in the Trollers Bible book, do a search either on here or Google about snapweights and learn a bit about them.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Go to Cannon dot com and look for mini troll or uni troll

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

You don't need downriggers, but you do at least need rod holders if you plan on fishing leadcore/snap weights/3 ways deep. For clear water a deep diving crank (12-20 feet) with a 2-3 oz snap weight about 90 feet out then another 60-90 feet out will get you as deep as you should need to go. A lot of times at dark or at night, suspended fish might be a lot closer to the surface than you think, so if you can run multiple lines run one shallower too.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

If the lake has tullibees in it then the fish will follow them to the surface in the evening as they follow the plankton. With clear, deep water You might also want to use planer boards to get the lures off to the side and away from the disturbace of the boat. You can still run leadcore or snap weights off of boards. The other thing i'd look for is a thermocline and concentrate your efforts above the thermocline which will eliminate alot of water that is unproductive. A good depthfinder will show a thermocline. If the lake has tullibees like mentioned before then look to the shallow reefs and boulder strewn shorelines at night in the fall and catch the piggies when they are shallow chasing the spawning tullies. Good luck!

Tunrevir~

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

If the lake has tullibees in it then the fish will follow them to the surface in the evening as they follow the plankton. With clear, deep water You might also want to use planer boards to get the lures off to the side and away from the disturbace of the boat. You can still run leadcore or snap weights off of boards. The other thing i'd look for is a thermocline and concentrate your efforts above the thermocline which will eliminate alot of water that is unproductive. A good depthfinder will show a thermocline. If the lake has tullibees like mentioned before then look to the shallow reefs and boulder strewn shorelines at night in the fall and catch the piggies when they are shallow chasing the spawning tullies. Good luck!

Tunrevir~

Tunrevir gave the best advise yet.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

You mentioned sparse weeds. If it were me and I coudl find any cabbage or other green weeds that is where I woudl start. most of my summer and early september walleyes come shallow from the weed edge or even in the weeds. if they are are sparse enough to pull a leech through great, otherwise I use a 1/8 jig head with 4 inch ringworm or rattletrap.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Go Shallow in the weeds! Dont look deeper you said you have tried that I would look shallow inside the weed edge! Good luck.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Create an account or sign in to comment

You need to be a member in order to leave a comment

Create an account

Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!


Register a new account

Sign in

Already have an account? Sign in here.


Sign In Now
Sign in to follow this  
Followers 0



  • Posts

    • Those sure are pretty snowflakes..........
    • Misguided by love as pure as the driven snow.  
    •   Yep, am with ya......and most of us thank you. Should not be a difficult concept to understand.....except for a select Jv few.
    • So was I.  When I say "my equipment" won't be freezing up when I am hole hopping with the aid of my toasty warm Otter cottage, part of my equipment that won't be freezing up would be the ez ducer...   
    • Reinhardt was sincere, and I don't believe he was trying to sell anything,  He had a lot of knowledge about meat, and simply wanted to share it.   I didn't fault him for his politics, either.  He was simply misguided on that....        
    • I took Mickey in 2008. Bubbles 4 years later. Not too worried about winning as some on here .....as winning in  those years wasn't really winning, and so far, neither is picking the winner in 16, other than saying you picked the winner and "get it".
    • Had an opportunity to tag along with LeeKen to Bluestem Nature Conservancy and sit in a blind Saturday morning.  Thought it was unusual to see a deer with antlers late March.
    •     I was thinking more like Goofy=Pres. Trump
    • Murphy’s Law   I went out this afternoon trout fishing.  I questioned the wisdom of fishing on a robin’s egg blue sky day.  Trout shun sunlight.  I went outside to check the weather. The warmth of the afternoon coaxed me out of the house.     I fished a stretch I have done well on in the past.  I knew because of the bright sun I would more than likely not do well on big trout this outing.  Trout do not have eye lids and shun bright sun. When I got to the stream the outdoor temperature was 58 degrees.  I took the water temperature and it was almost 50 degrees.  That is well within a good temperature range to score some trout.     I hit the water at 2:45pm.  The sun was high in the sky and not a single cloud was in the sky.  I knew from experience that days like these I typically fished the shaded side of the stream.  There was no shaded side of the stream.      The fishing was tough.  I had lots of follows and flashes at my lure.  None seemed to want to commit.   I decided to look for cover for the trout.  I decided anything to throw a little shade on the trout would make them feel comfortable.     The trout had lock jaw.  I decided to target broken water so the trout would feel secure and come out in the bright light.  They still were bashful.  I decided another trick was in order. I was going to throw in the biggest snarly messes and let the lure drop to the bottom and give it a tweak to start the blade going.  Bang bang and I was in business.  This only worked in deep runs and i lost a few lures throwing into the mess.     I ended the outing with 24 brown trout to hand. The biggest was about 16 inches.  It was 5:30pm.  I usually get out at a bridge and today was nothing different.  I stood on the bridge looking upstream.  There was a sweet log jam just upstream of the bridge and it was in shadows.     I decided i was going to go just upstream in the shadows and cast a few more times. I was still on the bridge looking upstream. I looked at my reel and there was a loop on the spool.  This loop needed to be cast out if I was going to continue fishing.  I decided the bridge afforded the best angle and no trees in the way to cast out the loop in my spool.     I cast off the bridge.  The loop caught and dropped my cast about 15 yards upstream.  It nearly didn't land in the water.  It hit tight to the bank and I had a big snarl in my reel.  I looked down and saw my panther martin was barely in the water.  I decided to pull off some line and get this snarl out.  I made even a bigger mess.     I sat down on the bridge rail and started to mess with my giant snarl.  I again looked at my lure and it was barely in the water.  I was worried about losing the lure because of the snarl.  It was safe and barely dangling in the water.     I  really made a mess with the reel.  I was cussing it and trying to untangle it.  I lost focus on my lure in the water. I was peering over my glasses and really putting all my attention on this mess and I heard a splash sound.  I looked upstream and saw nothing.  I looked back at the reel.  I heard a louder splash and looked over the bridge at my lure suspended in the water.     My mouth dropped open wide and I stared in disbelief.  Me messing with the line caused the lure to jig up and down in the water.  This attracted a predator.  Not 2 inches from my lure was a giant trout suspended and staring at the size 9 gold panther martin deluxe waiting for it to move again.     My reel was still messed up so there was no battling this huge female trout on my reel if it decided to quit dancing with my panther martin and eat it. The bridge was at least 15 feet off the water and the idea of battling a monster trout from above was not appealing.  I worked frantically on the snarl.  It got even more messed up.     My fighting with this reel and keeping one eye on the giant female was nerve racking.  She still was very interested in my lure.  She circled it like a shark.  It was more than I could stand.  I decided if I hooked up with her with this less than optimal circumstances I would lose her and maybe kill her because of the bridge nonsense.     I decided to try to catch her another day.  The reel was non functional and i grabbed the line and lifted the lure out of the water.  What happened next is going to be relived in my dreams for the rest of my life.  The monstrous female brown bum rushed the lure as I lifted it out of the water.  It launched itself out of the water snapping at the spinner.  It was a swing and a miss. I got my wits back together and thought about cutting out the snarl and trying for her. I decided a return trip was on the agenda.  As I write this recollection I smile and cuss my circumstances.
  • Our Sponsors