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NRA, claims national security council want to ban guns?

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Got a phone call from the NRA today which they claim the national security council want to ban guns. They claimed that mexico is behind it and blaming us for the drug violence in mexico. They also said Hillary Clinton would support this, has anyone heard anythign about this? Of coarse they wanted $100.

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I saw a story about that in their Amer. hunter story, I took it as the weapons used in mexico are illegally purchased and stolen so why punish the innocent with bans. They named them all too Pelosi, Clinton, etc etc

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Isn't that how they make their money - ring the firebell and wait for some smoke and then ask for the bucks?

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That's part of it. The other more devious thing they do is to get the faithful all riled up about loosing their guns that they run out and buy up all the stock so the armament companies can report a nice quarterly profit, which translates to big bonuses for the executives.

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That's part of it. The other more devious thing they do is to get the faithful all riled up about loosing their guns that they run out and buy up all the stock so the armament companies can report a nice quarterly profit, which translates to big bonuses for the executives.

Lol,no kidding there! A couple days after Obama got elected,a few of my buddies went nuts. Between the 3 of them they bought 10 AR type rifles-Rock Rivers,DPMS,and Colts-along with 30,000 rounds of Black Hills ammo.

Anyone who thinks this doesn't happen is a nut. I believe there were some threads about gun/ammo shortages on here after the election.

Our local Scheels store was sold out of military type semi autos in 2 days. The .223 ammo was gone in 3 days.

The manager of the gun dept. said it was the best week they've had in 9 years!

Can't blame the NRA I guess. It's their job to keep it's members alert. Part of that job is poking the kooks with a stick every now and then to make sure they're still ready to go. grin

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The UN security council has been trying this for as far back as I remember. The NRA is late to the party.

Calling people who are concerned with the sovereignty of the U.S. "kooks" is the same behavior and name calling we see with the American left and the press when it comes to these townhall meetings. Lashing out and name calling of the American people over their concerns over government take over of health care is really working well and attracting more people to their cause(sarcasm).

Nothing wrong with vigilance.

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Isn't that how they make their money - ring the firebell and wait for some smoke and then ask for the bucks?

Isn't that how it's always done? This is not just an NRA tactic. Every organization, specialty group, lobby, or person uses this tactic as a means to an end.

I was just reading my fall copy of the Pheasants Forever catalog and if you take everything to heart, if we don't do something we will eradicate the pheasant population forever.

Every sporting magazine I have ever subscribed to uses the same ploy. Exaggerate the conditions in order to hopefully spur support for your cause.

How many of us used the tactic to get what we want from our parents when we were younger? "Everyone else is going to the party, why can't I?" "That's the latest fashion trend and if you don't let me wear it, I won't fit in and my friends won't like me!"

When unions come to the negotiating table they bring along all kinds of exaggerated requests. The more the better because they can then agree to give up something trivial and in some cases really stupid in exchange for something they're really after.

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Name calling?

Then what do we call these people that hold them selves up in compounds fully supplied for armageddon. How about that law abiding citizen that shows up at a political debate that has nothing to do with the second amendment carrying a rifle over the shoulder and ammo tucked away. Or the guy that sneaks in a debate concealing a weapon knowingly breaking the rules.

Concerned citizens?

Lumping these people in the general description of people concerned about the sovereignty of America is like sweeping their actions under the rug just to further ones own ideals. Ignoring problem areas dont make those problems go away by exposing problems is when we really get down to the topic and concerns at hand.

Poking a stick at the Kooks paints a vivid picture that I tend to agree with along with the sub plot of how some can over react.

Funny when one talks about a gal having eight babies while already having a number of other children can be called off their rocker and a nut job and that is accepted but voicing the opinion against carrying fire arms to a political debate and calling them Kooks is taboo? .

Double standard I believe its called.

Or is it just being defensive and argumentative.

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Boogie men are taking my guns again?? just like the last time people made a fortune on $6.00 Ruger 10/22 clips for $80.00... Funny how those with the call to arms always profit the most, I guess I cant blame them we bought into it with Brady and last fall with the election.

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Name calling?

Then what do we call these people that hold them selves up in compounds fully supplied for armageddon. How about that law abiding citizen that shows up at a political debate that has nothing to do with the second amendment carrying a rifle over the shoulder and ammo tucked away. Or the guy that sneaks in a debate concealing a weapon knowingly breaking the rules.

Concerned citizens?

Lumping these people in the general description of people concerned about the sovereignty of America is like sweeping their actions under the rug just to further ones own ideals. Ignoring problem areas dont make those problems go away by exposing problems is when we really get down to the topic and concerns at hand.

Poking a stick at the Kooks paints a vivid picture that I tend to agree with along with the sub plot of how some can over react.

Funny when one talks about a gal having eight babies while already having a number of other children can be called off their rocker and a nut job and that is accepted but voicing the opinion against carrying fire arms to a political debate and calling them Kooks is taboo? .

Double standard I believe its called.

Or is it just being defensive and argumentative.

If someone has eight babies, that's their business unless they demand that taxpayers pay for them. If someone locks themselves in a cave waiting for the end times I don't care as long as they don't push that on others and don't threaten society

Does the NRA tell it's members to take their firearms and make a raid on DC? No. They tell their members to write or call their elected officials. Just like any other group has the right to do. And that seems to bother some in DC. They also don't force people to become members,unlike unions. If you don't like the NRA, you don't have to join. I am not a member because I don't hunt. But I am not threatened by them

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Calling people who are concerned with the sovereignty of the U.S. "kooks" is the same behavior and name calling we see with the American left and the press when it comes to these townhall meetings.

"Chris",the man who brought his AR15 to the AZ town hall is a faithful member of Steven L Anderson's church-he claims it's the best church out there and he never misses a sermon.

I invite anyone to listen to the full sermon on youtube where this "pastor" prays for the death of our President and nudges and prods his members to get it done.

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Nothing wrong with vigilance.

No,there's not. This however,is ensighting violence pure and simple. I was riddiculed a few months ago when I posted the means by how these KOOKS get results:VIOLENCE-it's all they know.

The unfortunate folks at the town halls are sadly misinformed and have been flat out lied to by the propaganda machine. Our senator Grassley was caught flat footed lying his hind end off,but when he was called on it he admitted that there were no "death panels" and no one would "pull the plug on grandma"-he just flat out lied about it.

And watch out for the new catch phrase "the American people". Alot of nuts are using this phrase to make you believe that everyone in America agrees with them-which is a stinky loaf. wink

I heartily invite ANYONE to call this guy and his flock anything other than what they are-EXTREMIST KOOKS.

If you think they're just "ordinary folks" with "concerns" then I would regretfully call you a "double stuffed KOOK" grin

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Who has ever been forced to join a union? Where they held at gunpoint?

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Got a phone call from the NRA today which they claim the national security council want to ban guns. They claimed that mexico is behind it and blaming us for the drug violence in mexico. They also said Hillary Clinton would support this, has anyone heard anythign about this? Of coarse they wanted $100.

The NRA is as warped on the right as PETA is on the left. I don't care much what either one says. Single-issue groups are almost always extremist. What a bore.

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The NRA is as warped on the right as PETA is on the left. I don't care much what either one says. Single-issue groups are almost always extremist. What a bore.

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Calling people who are concerned with the sovereignty of the U.S. "kooks" is the same behavior and name calling we see with the American left and the press when it comes to these townhall meetings.

"Chris",the man who brought his AR15 to the AZ town hall is a faithful member of Steven L Anderson's church-he claims it's the best church out there and he never misses a sermon.

I invite anyone to listen to the full sermon on youtube where this "pastor" prays for the death of our President and nudges and prods his members to get it done.

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Nothing wrong with vigilance.

No,there's not. This however,is ensighting violence pure and simple. I was riddiculed a few months ago when I posted the means by how these KOOKS get results:VIOLENCE-it's all they know.

The unfortunate folks at the town halls are sadly misinformed and have been flat out lied to by the propaganda machine. Our senator Grassley was caught flat footed lying his hind end off,but when he was called on it he admitted that there were no "death panels" and no one would "pull the plug on grandma"-he just flat out lied about it.

And watch out for the new catch phrase "the American people". Alot of nuts are using this phrase to make you believe that everyone in America agrees with them-which is a stinky loaf. wink

I heartily invite ANYONE to call this guy and his flock anything other than what they are-EXTREMIST KOOKS.

If you think they're just "ordinary folks" with "concerns" then I would regretfully call you a "double stuffed KOOK" grin

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Who has ever been forced to join a union? Where they held at gunpoint?

My last job, you had to join the union.

My current job is non union but my wife's job is and she is now laid off

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True. But it is true that the UN Security Council wants International gun control. Wanting and getting are two different things of course.

Whereas PETA tries to force it's values on society I see no evidence where the NRA does. PETA has also been under investigation for violence and law breaking. The NRA has not as far as I know.

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The American people do not want this Obamacare. It is obvious that you're not reading the house bill that has the majority, yes, the majority of the American people up in arms.

Total karp. Over 70% of Americans want health care reform.

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It's a sick tactic and you should be ashamed of yourself.

Lol.uh,ok. Not a tactic-just facts. "ashamed" LOL,you want me to be ashamed,but I think you want me to be ashamed for posting how some others who oppose Obama do business. These nuts are on an opposite side from me-same as you are. Now who are they closer too??

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I say let the public vote on Obamacare.

OK by me,but if it passed,you'd just cry that Acorn fixed it,so why bother?

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You didn't think this election was about the country wanting more of the Great Society, did you?

Yes,it was indeed. Why do you think he won?

TJ,i'm afraid you're in for a pretty bad future for the next few years-but you will get used to it. Or leave. grin

Good luck with your decision.

I'm a proud life member of the NRA-but you're not? shocked

Whether it be right or wrong TJ,neither you or anybody you endorse is in control of anything. I think you should relax and take a break. Speak your mind,karp,whatever,but don't berate me for displaying some nutburgers on the opposite side from me. Don't project.

Shoot Ron an e-mail-you'll feel better!

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Whereas PETA tries to force it's values on society

Post your proof please.

All too easy.

And this coming from a guy who couldn't wait to post an accusation, false one at that, about Palin resigning because of embezzlement crazy

If your so inclinded to do so, go to their site. Since we cannot post links. Go to their media center.

Also here is a good read for you

http://www.activistcash.com/organization_overview.cfm/oid/21

And this

http://www.heartland.org/publications/en...rist_Group.html

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Both groups try to force their values on society in the sense that they are always seeking new members so they can become more powerful, and they both lobby government and inflame public opinion to affect legislation.

If that's "forcing values on society," then that's just what any politically active group does.

One can point out (or manufacture) any differences one wants to between the NRA and PETA, and of course there are many and key differences. However, they're both extreme groups. Just that there area a lot more NRA defenders on this board than PETA defenders, as we'd expect on a fishing/hunting forum. smilesmile

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Yes, I recieved an e-mail stating a few are at it again with gun control issues.

Call you U.S. reps and senators and let them know how you feel about these bills. Thats the best way to help stop this.

If we all complain on FM and don't contact our elected officials who make these laws, we could lose.

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And this coming from a guy who couldn't wait to post an accusation, false one at that, about Palin resigning because of embezzlement

Lol,better do a current search on her old buddy! wink

I totally agree that Obama's approval rating is dropping. What most folks don't realize is that he's dropping because the Liberals don't feel he's getting enough done-they are the one's disapproving!. Check the lefty sites-they're fed up with him trying to be bi-partisan.

The right was never with him so how on earth could they figure into the current polls? crazy

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