SledNeck Posted July 31, 2009 Share Posted July 31, 2009 Twins have no choice, spend big, or have a fan backlash so great that we will become the washington nationals with 2000 fans a night. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
genegodawa Posted July 31, 2009 Share Posted July 31, 2009 You Twin fans are always welcome to come over to the N Side of Chi-town you know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blue_healer_guy Posted July 31, 2009 Share Posted July 31, 2009 I came to this thread late and have to laugh at the title. Rumors. Every year it's rumors. Personally there is no one left. Eat crow and finish 3rd, get 2 free agents next year that cost no picks. Oh, I forgot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
analyzer Posted July 31, 2009 Share Posted July 31, 2009 This line up would look alrightSpanMauerMorneauHunterKubelCuddyCredeSorianoBartlettSantanaHollidayBakerBlackburnx (I actually like the swarzak kid)I'd like Hunter, Santana, Bartlett back please, and we could've given up Garza a couple years ago for Soriano, but chose not to, only to give him up later for Delmon Young. Doh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PierBridge Posted July 31, 2009 Share Posted July 31, 2009 So much to address so little time...LOL First off, Harvey, If Mauer leaves the Twins you get your lodging and gas money payed for by me to the Next Sturgeon Excursion you attend...Done Deal... Anybody else want to bet straight up cash I'll gladly take the action. So we're the Washington Nationals now and the New stadium isn't even open yet... I guess I give up on this one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Born2Fish Posted July 31, 2009 Share Posted July 31, 2009 It's always quick to make the twins out to be crud if we don't trade. It's the same banter year after year. This guy will leave, that guy wants more money, etc. etc. Mauer will NOT leave MN. He was born here, raised here, and has been here hiw whole life. The twins WILL pay him his dues. Can you imagine the backlash if the twins let the hometown boy go and the yankees signed him. Good bye fans at the new ballpark. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Uran Posted July 31, 2009 Share Posted July 31, 2009 Why would he want to stay on an avg team his whole career. If we don't win, or do somethinig TO win it will be tough to sign him when his contract is up, Morneau too. He helps Mauer out quite a bit, w/o Morneau Mauer wouldn't see as many pitches. I could see them both gone when their contracts are up if we don't add some talent somewhere on the team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harvey lee Posted July 31, 2009 Share Posted July 31, 2009 It's always quick to make the twins out to be crud if we don't trade. It's the same banter year after year. This guy will leave, that guy wants more money, etc. etc. Mauer will NOT leave MN. He was born here, raised here, and has been here hiw whole life. The twins WILL pay him his dues. Can you imagine the backlash if the twins let the hometown boy go and the yankees signed him. Good bye fans at the new ballpark. Joe has stated that he will leave if they don't get some better players so they have a better chance at winning it all.That is what Joe stated. One cannot say he won't leave. Money is not the whole picture. Whats a few million to a good ball player? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
solbes Posted July 31, 2009 Share Posted July 31, 2009 Depends on the ball player. Many an athlete has gone to really, really bad teams because of more money. With Mauer, this is probably not the case. He would need the right opportunity before he considered leaving. He has to realize the value of being a home town guy with an MVP type bat right behind him. He's got a brand new ball park in which he will be one of two premier hitters.It's somewhat rare to have it all: League-wide competetive team, great salary, great fan support, nice ball park. He's got 3 out of 4. We're 1-2 starting pitchers, some middle reief, and an infield bat with pop away from being really competetive (okay that's a lot!). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
analyzer Posted July 31, 2009 Share Posted July 31, 2009 Yeah, and If the vikings had a QB, Fullback, Center, Right Guard, Right Tackle, Safety, dominating linebackers, and a more creative Head Coach, we'd be on our way to the superbowl.LOL>I think you have to consider ties. Once a player has a wife and kids, it's often difficult to uproot them from their home/schools/friends/etc. Mauer and Morneau don't have those sort of ties yet. If the Yankees offer them $50 million more than they're going to get here, they'll leave. You would've liked to think Tori was a home town guy. He left. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott K Posted July 31, 2009 Share Posted July 31, 2009 Morneau is married! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greebs Posted July 31, 2009 Share Posted July 31, 2009 Depends on the ball player. Many an athlete has gone to really, really bad teams because of more money. With Mauer, this is probably not the case. He would need the right opportunity before he considered leaving. He has to realize the value of being a home town guy with an MVP type bat right behind him. He's got a brand new ball park in which he will be one of two premier hitters.It's somewhat rare to have it all: League-wide competetive team, great salary, great fan support, nice ball park. He's got 3 out of 4. We're 1-2 starting pitchers, some middle reief, and an infield bat with pop away from being really competetive (okay that's a lot!). The problem with this rationale is that the yankees will have lots of strong bats to surround him and they've also got a brand new ballpark. They've also got a league-wide competitive team, great fan support, and they will likely pitch a whole lot of $ at him if we don't get him signed to an extension before that comes about. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chaffmj Posted July 31, 2009 Share Posted July 31, 2009 What I understand about Mauer is it isn't the money. He wants to win it all. He has been very competitive all his life and that has not gone away. He will leave if the Twins don't sign some players to give them a shot at the WS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B. Amish Posted July 31, 2009 Share Posted July 31, 2009 just seen a rumor that orlando cabrera is getting traded to the twins.we'll see. that would be a solid move. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott K Posted July 31, 2009 Share Posted July 31, 2009 Quote:According to Tim Brown of Yahoo! Sports, the Twins have acquired Orlando Cabrera from the A's for 21-year-old shorstop Tyler Ladendorf.Ladendorf has a .322/.403/.496 batting line, four home runs and 21 RBI and three stolen bases in 121 at-bats this season at the Single-A level. He may not be in striking distance of a major league job for two or three years, but is young and cheap -- just how Oakland GM Billy Beane likes 'em. On the other end of the deal, Cabrera finally gives Minnesota a reliable shortstop, both at the plate and in the field. They're making a run for the AL Central. Jul. 31 - 1:09 pm etSource: Yahoo! Sports on Twitter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KMR85 Posted July 31, 2009 Share Posted July 31, 2009 ESPN is reporting the same thing. At least they made a move, even though the better players were already traded. This is better than Casilla batting .160! Toronto was asking too much for Scutaro(sp) according to the Trib. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pegleg Posted July 31, 2009 Share Posted July 31, 2009 This is also posted on Oakland A's HSOforum... The Twins sure didn't give up much on this deal. Must be future considerations or something else going on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KMR85 Posted July 31, 2009 Share Posted July 31, 2009 I wonder if they will keep Cabrera at SS, or keep little Nikki there? I wish they would start Cabrera and Harris, or it's not much of an improvement IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DHanson Posted July 31, 2009 Share Posted July 31, 2009 Cabrera is hitting .280, 4 HR, 41 RBI, 11 SB.Definitely better than Punto or Casilla. Hopefully Harris gets 2nd base mostly to himself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HossFisher Posted July 31, 2009 Share Posted July 31, 2009 Cabrera is also a two time gold glove winner and is riding an 11 game hitting streak into the trade. He's hitting .379 in the month of July. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pegleg Posted July 31, 2009 Share Posted July 31, 2009 I hope Cabrera is on a plane to Minneapolis right now. Heading to the game tonight so I sure would like to see him at short, Harris at 2nd and Crede at 3rd tonight. He only has a 1 year contract so this could be a rental player for 2 months. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
solbes Posted July 31, 2009 Share Posted July 31, 2009 Well it's not going to bring us an instant title. But it can only help our team. The platoon system at middle infield is getting old. Casilla is out for sure now, and Punto should only play to give relief to one of the other 3 infielders. Sounds like a good move for the squad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UdeLakeTom Posted July 31, 2009 Share Posted July 31, 2009 If Punto and Casilla are out at 2nd base, who do you have at 2nd??? Harris is not a 2nd baseman. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KMR85 Posted July 31, 2009 Share Posted July 31, 2009 The report is he should be at the game tonight, as long as his plane lands on time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KMR85 Posted July 31, 2009 Share Posted July 31, 2009 If Punto and Casilla are out at 2nd base, who do you have at 2nd??? Harris is not a 2nd baseman. He's not any worse at 2nd than those two. You have to think about the offensive side of the game, not just defense. I think Harris can start at 2nd with the boost he gives over Punto at the plate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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