Guests - If You want access to member only forums on HSO. You will gain access only when you Sign-in or Sign-Up on HotSpotOutdoors.

It's easy - LOOK UPPER right menu.

  • Announcements

    • Rick

      Members Only Fluid Forum View   08/08/2017

      Fluid forum view allows members only to get right to the meat of this community; the topics. You can toggle between your preferred forum view just below to the left on the main forum entrance. You will see three icons. Try them out and see what you prefer.   Fluid view allows you, if you are a signed up member, to see the newest topic posts in either all forums (select none or all) or in just your favorite forums (select the ones you want to see when you come to Fishing Minnesota). It keeps and in real time with respect to Topic posts and lets YOU SELECT YOUR FAVORITE FORUMS. It can make things fun and easy. This is especially true for less experienced visitors raised on social media. If you, as a members want more specific topics, you can even select a single forum to view. Let us take a look at fluid view in action. We will then break it down and explain how it works in more detail.   The video shows the topic list and the forum filter box. As you can see, it is easy to change the topic list by changing the selected forums. This view replaces the traditional list of categories and forums.   Of course, members only can change the view to better suit your way of browsing.   You will notice a “grid” option. We have moved the grid forum theme setting into the main forum settings. This makes it an option for members only to choose. This screenshot also shows the removal of the forum breadcrumb in fluid view mode. Fluid view remembers your last forum selection so you don’t lose your place when you go back to the listing. The benefit of this feature is easy to see. It removes a potential barrier of entry for members only. It puts the spotlight on topics themselves, and not the hierarchical forum structure. You as a member will enjoy viewing many forums at once and switching between them without leaving the page. We hope that fluid view, the new functionality is an asset that you enjoy .
  • RECEIVE THE GIFTS MEMBERS SHARE WITH YOU HERE...THEN...CREATE SOMETHING TO ENCHANT OTHERS THAT YOU WANT TO SHARE

    You know what we all love...

    When you enchant people, you fill them with delight and yourself in return. Have Fun!!!

Sign in to follow this  
MuleShack

Deck building...Would a contractor do?

Recommended Posts

We wre thinking of putting up a deck on the house. I dont mind doing the work, but thinking the four 8x8 posts and the quadruple width beam and joist hanging will be too much for one guy. It is a 16' x 22' square plan with no stairs, 4 posts and the footings and patio are already in down below.

Do you think a contractor would do a job if it only entailed the beam and posts and joists?

I can handle the rest by myself. I know there are some contractors on here, just wondering how you would feel about bidding on a partial job? It shouldn't make any difference if people are looking for work.

I have not gotten any estimates yet, just trying to get a feel for if some one would want to bid on a partial job.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

I did my deck a couple years ago by myself. And even tho my was not as large(20X12), I did all the work myself. Find a friend or neighbor to help with the post and the main beam. The joists shouldn't be too bad if you use joist hangers and are laying them on top of the main beam.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

A contractor would balk if they were asked to bid on an started project thats messed up. That could be a number of things. Wrong placement of posts, poor layout or structurally poor planing where the project couldn't pass inspection.

Or having them stop at a point and letting you finish that might effect their work or cause the project to fail an inspection or code violation.

Otherwise the job is what you specify. Partial or whatever.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

If you can handle the job and know what to do why not ask a couple of friends/neighbors to help you. Offer them a fine 'T' bone on the grill dinner with happy hour after the work is done.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

I know for sure there are at least a few companies that will do partial builds on a deck. However, they usually will do the footings, posts, and frame and then leave you to do the flooring and railings.

The fact that the footings are in might make them pass on the job if they are not done correctly. I would call around to see what companies are willing to do partial builds and then talk to them about your specifics. If they come out and check the footings and find that they were done correctly they may be willing to do the job. If they are done incorrectly them may still take the job but require the plan to be altered so they can dig new footings that are done right. At least that way you can be sure its done right.

With that said I would personally do the work myself or with a few buddies. If you have the skills this is a good project where you can save some money.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

its not too bad doing that, a friend and i built many decks over the past two years, and it was just the two of us. some tips:

Scab on 2x4 "legs" to your post angled out to give it support to stand on its own. (the blocks the lumberyard sets down to fork your material onto works great for this) then get all of your posts standing, then add 1 ply of your beam at a time. make sure you crown them properly, and screw/nail them to laminate them together each time you add a ply. next put up the end joists, giving the correct overhang, and toenail them to the beam (if you're overhanging the beam, if not then joist hangar to the beam)

from there its simple, just keep adding joists.

its easily a 2 person job if you use some mechanical assistance.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

The footings were permitted and inspected by the county when I put them in while I was putting in the paver patio a few years ago...so they are all legal.

Now you guys got me thinking about tackling it myself. I built the last deck on our old house, but that was smaller. Could probably swing it if I worked smarter and not harder. Good Idea about the bracing crothmeier.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

smarter not harder. theres something to live by.

take your time on it and im sure all will go well. you can always find a willing buddy if a case of his favorite beer and maybe a steak is plopped down on the finished deck!

(dont drink prior, or during construction!!! haha)

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

We're actually by Fish lake. If we decide to start it this year, it wouldn't be till October. I'll keep you in mind.

Thanks for the offer.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Muleshack,

The problems that I see with having a contractor do partial work on your deck is this:

1. MN state code requires that the homeowner or the contractor doing the work must pull the permit for the work that is to be completed, with this being said I have never heard of any city allowing a contractor to only pull a permit for the framing portion of a deck.

2. I would want to know if the footings have been inspected before they were poured (the footings are to be 42" deep and belled out to the specs that are set by the building offical) as this is required per code also.

3. There are three parts to deck inspections, the footing inspection, the framing inspection and the final inspection; if any of these inspections "fail" the person or company whom pulled the permit is "liable" to correct any of the issues that the inspector may find.

4. As a licenced contractor I would never subject my reputation or my licence to any mistakes that are out of my control, this info is just F.Y.I. and is only my opinion.

Chad

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

That is understandable.

My footing holes were inspected by county and permit signed, so that is all good to go.

I would have no problem pulling the permit for the entire deck being I would be doing the finish part anyway, and let the contractor do the framing.

I was just looking for someone qualified to get it started with the heavy lifting so to speak...and so that it is level and square when it is finished. grin

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Keep in mind that you will have no legal recourse if something were to go wrong (i.e. contractor didn't use the correct fasteners to nail all the joist hangers on) Please don't mistake my concerns for me trying to talk you into hiring a contractor but with this economy everyone can build anything, having been in the trades for the past 16 years I am truly tired of "pete and his pick-up" trying to be my competitor

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Keep in mind that you will have no legal recourse if something were to go wrong (i.e. contractor didn't use the correct fasteners to nail all the joist hangers on) Please don't mistake my concerns for me trying to talk you into hiring a contractor but with this economy everyone can build anything, having been in the trades for the past 16 years I am truly tired of "pete and his pick-up" trying to be my competitor

Against the contractor...HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH there I think I'm done laughing.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

chasineyes,

I'm a little confused as to what you are trying to say?

Are you implying that a homeowner has no legal recource?

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Create an account or sign in to comment

You need to be a member in order to leave a comment

Create an account

Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!

Register a new account

Sign in

Already have an account? Sign in here.

Sign In Now

Sign in to follow this  



  • Your Responses - Share & Have Fun :)

    • Nice win this afternoon on the road...things are getting interesting....need others to keep stumbling and we may not have to worry about a Wild Card.
    • That's the problem in restrictor plate races--stay on the gas and hit the car in front or lift and be hit from behind.
    • No doubt!   We didn’t have to wonder if there was actual contact though after Dillon said he had a run and just stayed in the gas.   Is what it is.  And that’s the difference I noticed.
    • So no sill plate for the walls on the perimeter then.  OK.     Again, not an expert so whatever your guys say and you’re comfortable with... I don’t know all your construction details. I - sandy County Is just that; sandy.  So it’s not too tough to get a good base.   My experience, as it relates to this, has just been based on building a 36x48 wood framed garage in Isanti County.  8 inch block on the perimeter to support 12 foot sidewalls of 2x6 construction.  My buddy that sold me the lumber said the project was only 200 feet short on interior walls from being a house.  After adding in the attic square footage it had more than my house.  Going with a pole building frame is the game changer.   Again, best of luck. It would be interesting to me to see the completed project.
    •   Didn't say you would.    
    • Lol Leech-I don’t remember saying I was going to block the driveway with logs or wire. They will begin hitting the 4x4’s beneath there that have been there to keep cars from driving on the grass. Not my deal. I was only looking for some guidance on if I’m overreacting or if there should be som me]angers employee. So, ya, like everything else, it’s a lack of manners and I’m not crazy...yet. 
    • Just had a call with the builder and the concrete guy I am working with. Neither said they would "waste" concrete on thickening the edge unless there were plans to add on to the structure at a later date. The builder said no amount of concrete on the edge will help the building stability. He says if it moves its his fault in building it. There will be no weight on the outside edge of the building, worst thing that could happen would be erosion outside the building.
    • Had looked into the panels and they pretty much doubled the initial cost of the structure. I could spry foam the entire wall cavity for less $ and have close to the same thing.
    • Most of the moving on restrictor plates is done by changing the air flow around the car being passed with no or very little contact.
    • huckfin gets win number 1 with 271 2--Rip_Some_Lip        269 3--mnwildman            262 4--Juneau4                 257 5--Fishind_Novice      248 6--Swiveldigger          231 7--BlackLndProV        220 8--rl_sd                         210 9--icefishingnut          201   Last year the winning score was 200
  • MWO