Guests - If You want access to member only forums on HSO. You will gain access only when you Sign-in or Sign-Up on HotSpotOutdoors.

It's easy - LOOK UPPER right menu.

Sign in to follow this  
Followers 0
itchmesir

Walleye Stamp.. mandatory? other stamps? (just a thought)

52 posts in this topic

So this new voluntary Walleye Stamp has got me thinking... do you think Minnesota should make it mandatory to purchase this stamp to target walleyes?.. just like trout stamps or Sturgeon tags?

Personally i think it should.. with trout stamp purchases MN DNR has been able to afford to stock SE MN streams to make it some of the best trout fishing in the US.. this year the DNR has added more designated streams(whether by extending designations or designating new streams) which means even more stocking and rehabilitation of local streams..

i remember reading an article about a steam that runs near The Mall Of America(maybe someone can name it for me) that was rehabilitated.. they were able to bring back native brook trout to the stream by cleaning it up and rebuilding the stream.. that's a pretty big step.. brooks being very picky with their water quality... and yet able to have brooks running in a stream that runs through the twin cities area..

I'm not holding this argument just for a Walleye stamp either.. i think MN should make a stamp for all game fish that the state stocks.. including pike/muskie and bass.. plus look on the flip side of fishing.. hunting.. you must purchase separate licenses for different game.. except small game(which technically in fishing terms would be panfish and lesser favored fish.. carp, suckers, bullheads, etc..) ... some would say this would be tough to manage.. but would it really be any tougher than managing trout fishermen.. or the new conservation license?

well.. what are your thoughts?

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Yikes, where are we headed?

Did we not just pass a sales tax increase for the "outdoors"? Maybe the state could use those funds. Oh that's right, the funds are also for the "arts", which of course was down played to get the bill passed.

Why not just make fishing reels that keep track of every cast and then a scanner reads the number when you come off the lake and auto debits your credit card?

Ok, having said all of this I think the voluntary stamps are the way to go. Gives a person the option if he has the bucks to put a little more towards his fav fish. Also allows the guy who has already been taxed up to his eyeballs to not contribute, but still get out and enjoy one of the best stress relieving past times this state has to offer.

BTW, I don't fish trout any more. I used to enjoy camping at WW State Park and would always bring a rod along. I would catch and release trout. I can't justify the cost for a two day outing to have to pay for the stamp along with the increased camping fees so I leave the rod at home and just enjoy the camping there.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

What do you do with the stamp once you get one?

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Itchmesir, I was going to post a note on here regarding the walleye stamp after I bought mine yesterday.

On Saturday I bought my family fishing license so I was ready for opener. I forgot to get the walleye stamp (I wanted to purchase one because I felt it was the right thing to do even though you don't need to) so I went back to the bait store yesterday to purchase the stamp. I gave the guy $5 and he gave me a receipt. I asked the owner where my stamp was and he said I would need to spend another $2 to have the state mail it to me.

Did anybody else buy one and run into this? In my mind, this stamp is not $5 but is now $7 for the stamp....

Thoughts???

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Sometimes I really want to comment but then luckily realize some things are better kept to myself.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

I ran into that also. No one said anything about the added cost.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

I know it is only $2 but that is like making a donation to the Red Cross and then they would charge me for shipping and handling of my check/donation... That is not right.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

If they were to make the eye' stamp mandatory, IMO it should be mandatory to have the stamp only while fishing lakes that have received stocking or other financially intensive help from the DNR to support the fish population (i.e. Leech Lake). Up in northern MN there are hundreds of lakes full of walleyes that have never received a stocked fish, I don't think we should have to pay extra to fish them.

Steve

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

anyone know why they only mail now, didnt they use to just have a bunch behind the counter before and if you bought one tossed on the license????

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

If they were to make the eye' stamp mandatory, IMO it should be mandatory to have the stamp only while fishing lakes that have received stocking or other financially intensive help from the DNR to support the fish population (i.e. Leech Lake). Up in northern MN there are hundreds of lakes full of walleyes that have never received a stocked fish, I don't think we should have to pay extra to fish them.

Steve

Make everyone else pay except me.

If the lake has public boat landing that is funding right.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Yes thats funding for the lake but not supporting the walleyes. I'm talking either direct stocking or things like cormorant shooting, etc. Just my 2 cents but if they do make it mandatory statewide I'll be happy to purchase it.

Otherwise make it like the trout stamp where you need it to keep fish but not fish for them. On non designated trout lakes, i.e. lakes that only have lakers, you can fish, but you can't keep the lakers you catch.

Steve

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

I would like to see a panfish stamp. I think they receive a lot more fishing pressure than people realize, and a few bucks and some priority on that part of the fishery would affect the larger predators too.

Stocking probably isnt necessary in most cases, but better management of panfish would be a huge step forward IMO.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Yikes, where are we headed?

Did we not just pass a sales tax increase for the "outdoors"? Maybe the state could use those funds. Oh that's right, the funds are also for the "arts", which of course was down played to get the bill passed.

Why not just make fishing reels that keep track of every cast and then a scanner reads the number when you come off the lake and auto debits your credit card?

Ok, having said all of this I think the voluntary stamps are the way to go. Gives a person the option if he has the bucks to put a little more towards his fav fish. Also allows the guy who has already been taxed up to his eyeballs to not contribute, but still get out and enjoy one of the best stress relieving past times this state has to offer.

BTW, I don't fish trout any more. I used to enjoy camping at WW State Park and would always bring a rod along. I would catch and release trout. I can't justify the cost for a two day outing to have to pay for the stamp along with the increased camping fees so I leave the rod at home and just enjoy the camping there.

Well for one.. i personally don't fish WW.. I think it's silly that someone should have to pay to be in a park to fish unless you plan on camping of course.. secondly.. i've probably fished for trout at least 20-30 days already this year.. if not more..

I don't see why it would be such a freak out(tracked casts? scanning? *rolleyes* extremists.. are you also stock piling swine flu shots? lol) .. as you seem to make it to make someone pay for a stamp for fish that are stocked and habitats that are built for them.. sure you could say "well not every habitat is built for walleye.. yadda yadda" but neither is the case for trout.. if you don't wanna target a stamped fish then there is no reason to buy a stamp then.. plus if the money is going to a good cause whats wrong with that? I don't fish for muskie but every year i give the extra $1 twords muskie(i cant remember exactly what it does.. i just know every year they ask if i want to donate it)

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Itchmesir, I was going to post a note on here regarding the walleye stamp after I bought mine yesterday.

On Saturday I bought my family fishing license so I was ready for opener. I forgot to get the walleye stamp (I wanted to purchase one because I felt it was the right thing to do even though you don't need to) so I went back to the bait store yesterday to purchase the stamp. I gave the guy $5 and he gave me a receipt. I asked the owner where my stamp was and he said I would need to spend another $2 to have the state mail it to me.

Did anybody else buy one and run into this? In my mind, this stamp is not $5 but is now $7 for the stamp....

Thoughts???

Isn't this the case for most stamps? I know some are available at the counter, but isn't there an extra fee for the actual stamp?

There may be a difference if it's a Federal or State stamp.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

A co-worker and I were having a similar conversation yestereday. Not specifically about the walleye stamp, although that did come up, but just about the cost of a fishing license in general.

I know this is a controversial subject, everything seems to be going up these days, and with the economic state we are in, more and more of us are in tune with what things cost.

I respect everybodies opinion, but I just bought the fishing license for the family yesterday. Paid $26 for a combination fishing license. That covers me, my wife and 2 kids. Break that down and it is only $6.50 each to fish for the entire year.

Seems pretty cheap to me. I personally would pay more, if it meant better fishing. I do realize not everyone fishes as much as my family does, but still.

I totally forgot about the walleye stamp for this year, but will definetely be making the purchase the next time I am at the outdoor store.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

The husband/wife combination only covers you and your wife. Under 16 no license required. Over 16 they need thier own licence. Changes the math to $13.00 each, still a bargain.

Only point it out because a group that stays at the same resort as us every August insists thier "family license" covers all imediate family regardless of age. We've showed them the regs. but they disagree with our interpretation.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

is it no license required, or they are covered because I bought a license?

My kids are both under 16, but if I hadn't bought a license would they still beable to fish?

either way, my family of 4 fishes the whole year for $26.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

I agree with you itchmesir. Personally, I rarely target Walleyes but would gladly pay the additional 5 dollars if that meant better stocking/management of that species.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

I agree with you itchmesir. Personally, I rarely target Walleyes but would gladly pay the additional 5 dollars if that meant better stocking/management of that species.

I have no problem buying the stamp.I mean how long will it be before buying the stamp to keep a Walleye is mandatory?? I doubt that it will take very long for this to happen. Next year?? Maybe the following year?? What I would like to see is nobody else sticking there fingers into the pot for other causes. Seems like this happens alot.

Something else to think about is, How about makeing the stamp mandatory for Non resident fishermen? And keeping it a voluntary thing for residents? Just a thaught..

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

The whole idea seems like a good idea to me, eventhough I rarely fish the critter that, according to the DNR, the average angler spends 3.5 hours fishing for every one they catch. The state is basically saying "hey, we can invest more money and do the scientific leg work for you and your family to catch more fish IF you want to donate some money to the cause." Whats wrong with that???

Five bucks hardly seems out of the question. The $2 to get the stamp in your hands just keeps little bait shop employee thieves from taking them all. The $2 also allows all of that $5 to go towards the cause. Imagine the cost of design, printing, distribution, and cost of stocking every store with stamps that people MIGHT BUY. Sorry, DU logic coming through there.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Originally Posted By: pegleg
Itchmesir, I was going to post a note on here regarding the walleye stamp after I bought mine yesterday.

On Saturday I bought my family fishing license so I was ready for opener. I forgot to get the walleye stamp (I wanted to purchase one because I felt it was the right thing to do even though you don't need to) so I went back to the bait store yesterday to purchase the stamp. I gave the guy $5 and he gave me a receipt. I asked the owner where my stamp was and he said I would need to spend another $2 to have the state mail it to me.

Did anybody else buy one and run into this? In my mind, this stamp is not $5 but is now $7 for the stamp....

Thoughts???

Isn't this the case for most stamps? I know some are available at the counter, but isn't there an extra fee for the actual stamp?

There may be a difference if it's a Federal or State stamp.

Yes 2 dollars more for the Actual stamp if you want it. 5 dollars if you just want to donate to the stocking portion. I passed on the Pictorial Stamps for Trout and State Pheasant this year but paid the extra $2 for the actual Walleye Stamp..

It's volentary...

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

From page 7 of the MN fishing regulations online:

* All residents age 15 and younger are allowed to take thier own limit of fish without purchasing a license.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

I took the extra 5 on the walleye stamp. Guess we will see if the money is well spent and if not I will not purchase in years to come.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Originally Posted By: metrojoe
Originally Posted By: pegleg
Itchmesir, I was going to post a note on here regarding the walleye stamp after I bought mine yesterday.

On Saturday I bought my family fishing license so I was ready for opener. I forgot to get the walleye stamp (I wanted to purchase one because I felt it was the right thing to do even though you don't need to) so I went back to the bait store yesterday to purchase the stamp. I gave the guy $5 and he gave me a receipt. I asked the owner where my stamp was and he said I would need to spend another $2 to have the state mail it to me.

Did anybody else buy one and run into this? In my mind, this stamp is not $5 but is now $7 for the stamp....

Thoughts???

Isn't this the case for most stamps? I know some are available at the counter, but isn't there an extra fee for the actual stamp?

There may be a difference if it's a Federal or State stamp.

Yes 2 dollars more for the Actual stamp if you want it. 5 dollars if you just want to donate to the stocking portion. I passed on the Pictorial Stamps for Trout and State Pheasant this year but paid the extra $2 for the actual Walleye Stamp..

It's volentary...

I guess why not call the walleye stamp $7 then when the DNR advertises it? You don't need the validation to fish for walleyes - they gave me a paper receipt for the validation. It is only $2 but it is just the principle of it to get the stamp being you already donated $5 to the cause.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Im going to sit this out (waleye stamp purchase) for this year and see where the monies truely get spent ,,,I buy a trout stamp and fish Lake Superior to catch trout and salmon but the state has dropped stocking in Lake Superior

LAS

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Create an account or sign in to comment

You need to be a member in order to leave a comment

Create an account

Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!


Register a new account

Sign in

Already have an account? Sign in here.


Sign In Now
Sign in to follow this  
Followers 0



  • Posts

    • The 2 lakes i bass fish have slowed way down the last week.   A swim-bait ripple shad was hot ticket for a while but that is just a pike attraction right now.  Been switching to a Senko and helped a little.   Pads are coming up fast now and we should see a spike up in activity soon.  Cannot wait to throw the frogs soon as that is the biggest rush watching those eruptions in the water!!   Thanks for posting as i found it to be quite slower than usual also.   Which means i need to find better ammo during those times.  
    • Tomorrow we will be back at it
    • I am giving it a last hurrah tomorrow. Sorry I haven't been able to check in here much. I have hardly been able to get out this year between work, a baby at home, and a recent trip out of the country for a relative's wedding.    Last time I was out I had a real nice Tom within 20 yards after a very long standoff. I think I screwed it up by rushing myself a bit. He stood around 50 yards out literally strutting back and forth like someone had drawn a line in the mud that he wouldnt cross. He must not have wanted to fight with the strutter decoy we had out. He did that for 45 minutes to an hour and finally came our way after a hen led him towards us.    They came past us but were outside the decoys and angling slightly away from us. Then the tom turned and started angling straight at the strutter decoy. That meant he was basically quartering to me and when he was 15-17 yards or so out I drew because in the back of my mind i was thinking if he kept moving that way and past the decoy he would quickly be in a spot I would have had no shot.   In hindsight I think he had realized (once he got close enough) that he would have been able to whoop up on the decoy and he was coming in to do just that. I probably should have waited to see, but I didn't and right as I hit the backwall of my draw his head popped up on alert and he turned around and walked straight away knowing something wasn't quite right. I could have easily shot at him at 20 yards but he was facing away and I just didn't feel comfortable. I am confident I would have hit my mark but I didn't like shooting at something walking straight away when I am not experienced with bow hunting turkeys.   I know some people will say that I should have shot, but I have been bow hunting for awhile and never wounded anything because of a poor shot or poor shot selection, so I didn't want that to be a first. Hopefully I get a shot at redemption tomorrow!
    • Way to go team!! I sure took the avg score down with my jake
    • nice story, fishing has a way of easing the pains we have. even when we hurt like crazy when done for the day we are looking forward to the next outing.
    • way to go, guys yep, the toms not about to give up even though its close to closing time have seen several strutters the past couple weeks and heard gobbles yesterday while fishing
    • great job. makes it 5 for 5 for team 5 congrats on a nice tom, 57 and that willl give our team score a boost
    • One More Cast      Photo by:  Roger Abraham   If any of you out there are regular readers of my tales, you have followed my recent struggles with back and knees.  I can’t put a name to this drive I have to be on the stream as of late.  It borders on obsession. I guess in my mind if I am healthy enough to fish the world is right with me and I am not getting old and feeble.      Today I was a witness to that I am not the only one.  Lots of anglers and hunters live to go out into the outdoors. .  It is what drives them.  It makes them feel alive.  It is their passion.  I told my fishing buddy Abe today my thoughts.  I told him how I was feeling a little old.  I guess my 60th birthday coming up next month makes me feel mortal.  Abe laughed and said I was a young buck compared to him.  Abe turns 76 this year.     Abe told me tales about catching big trout in tiny streams in Wisconsin and out west.  The twinkle in his eye when he reminisced I had seen before in many trout anglers.      We fished a stretch for 2 hours.  I sat down and rested often.  Abe kept on fishing. He got hung up in a box elder branch and lost a lure.  Abe told me box elders trees were his nemesis when he fished.   He asked me which tree was my kryptonite.  I told him, "ones with branches."  We both had a chuckle and continued fishing.   I thought to myself this guy is really driven.  I hope I am like him at 76.     We got to the vehicle and Abe wanted to continue fishing.  Abe’s waders sprang a leak earlier and he fell in the water a couple times.  He was quite wet.  He wanted to change in to dry clothes before we continue.  Abe peeled off his wet shirt and there were two things stuck to his chest.  He could tell by my questioning look he needed to tell me what was up.     Abe told me he had been having heart problems lately and he was supposed to be wearing a heart monitor.  He left it in the car because he was afraid of getting the electronics wet.  Here I have been whining about being old and the guy I was fishing with left his heart monitor in his vehicle.      Abe reassured me that he was in no danger and he could continue fishing.  I started brainstorming on a place to fish where it was not so hard walking.  Now that I knew he was not as healthy as he looked I wanted an easy place to fish.  I knew the place and it was upstream 5 miles.     We arrived at the well manicured field.  It looked like a golf green.  I picked the area because the farmer kept sheep and goats on the land and the weeds and brush were gone because of the goats.  We walked and fished.     Abe told tales of the old days and of fish lost and landed.  I walked a little forward to fish and looked back to check up on Abe.  What I saw when I looked back scared me and I immediately asked Abe if he was ok.  Abe was laying flat on the ground face down.  I thought the worst and he could tell by my face.  He told me to calm down.  His back was acting up and he needed to straight it out and that was the best way to do it.   We fished a little bit more and he took a photo of me.  He liked the lighting. He told me it captured the essence of trout fishing.  He did not have a camera.  I let him use mine.  He was not camera savvy and needed an impromptu lesson on how to use it.   We drove to his car and we talked about our love of the outdoors. We shook hands and headed our separate ways and promised to fish again soon.  As I drove home I smiled and thought about how I am going to be when I am 76.  I hope I am like Abe and my eyes still twinkle when I talk of chasing trout and I am still driven to make one more cast.
    • The past week has had me having multiple close calls and missing a brute at 45 yards.  Tonight I talked my dad to give it another try and there were birds in the field when we got there.  Birds ended up leaving as we tried to sneak in.  A short 20 minutes later they were back and we watched and worked the big group of toms and hens for more than 2 hours before we got one to commit.  Dad shot him with his 20 gauge at 48 yards,(this thing shoots an awesome pattern).  The 3 year old was down and only flopped a few times.   Nice 1+ inch spurs, 10" beard and heavy.  A good evening for sure!
    • Sorry to disappoint guys, but this tom was not my first bird of the season. Apparently that's part of the rules. The score won't count towards the team. I don't have any measurements for the jake I shot so we will have a zero from me.    At least my freezer is full. 
  • Our Sponsors