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#1970968 - 08/08/09 12:46 AM
Wild turkey with white head.
jigginjim Offline
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As I drove thru Hanover today, I noticed a small flock of young wild turkeys. 1 was a typical colored hen, the other looked like the head and fronhalf od bird was white or very little colored. My cell phone camerea would not get a good photo of bird.

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#1971006 - 08/08/09 06:09 AM
Re: Wild turkey with white head. [Re: jigginjim]
Gordie Offline
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Registered: 07/24/06
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Loc: Zimmerman Minn
I think I would be trying to keep an eye on that bird and scout it for a future season. sounds like it would be a cool mount.
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#1975332 - 08/12/09 01:25 PM
Re: Wild turkey with white head. [Re: Gordie]
bigbucks Offline
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Loc: Long Prairie, MN, USA
They're pretty common. There's a few partial white ones in one of the flocks I hunt every year.

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#1975353 - 08/12/09 01:47 PM
Re: Wild turkey with white head. [Re: bigbucks]
Jim Uran Offline
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Loc: Lengby/Waubun
Here is a turkey I took a pic of last spring who was also partially white.



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#1975359 - 08/12/09 01:49 PM
Re: Wild turkey with white head. [Re: Jim Uran]
DonBo Offline
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That is a beautiful bird. Way to go getting a shot of that.

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#1975381 - 08/12/09 02:07 PM
Re: Wild turkey with white head. [Re: DonBo]
Jim Uran Offline
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Here is the ladies he was with!! He wasn't far behind them.


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#1975406 - 08/12/09 02:31 PM
Re: Wild turkey with white head. [Re: Jim Uran]
DonBo Offline
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Beautiful birds. I've heard that is not uncommon, but I've never seen it.

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#1975429 - 08/12/09 02:51 PM
Re: Wild turkey with white head. [Re: DonBo]
setterguy Offline
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Are these crosses with Commercially grown birds?

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#1975441 - 08/12/09 03:01 PM
Re: Wild turkey with white head. [Re: setterguy]
Jackpine Rob Offline
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I've heard them referred to as "smoke" or "smoke phase" birds. My friend the fish cop tells me they are highly prized trophies in some areas of the country.

I've seen a number of them in parts of South Dakota, but have never pulled the trigger on one myself.

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#1975447 - 08/12/09 03:05 PM
Re: Wild turkey with white head. [Re: setterguy]
Jim Uran Offline
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Originally Posted By: setterguy
Are these crosses with Commercially grown birds?


I was thinking the same thing when I first seen these! But really, there aren't any farms near where I got these pics. I'm glad they have gained some interest anyways.

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#1975448 - 08/12/09 03:06 PM
Re: Wild turkey with white head. [Re: Jackpine Rob]
DonBo Offline
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Loc: Oakdale, MN / Webster, WI
Here it is right from the NWTF website:

Myth #3: Silver-phase turkeys are a result of domestic turkeys joining a flock in the wild.

Fact: Silver-phase turkeys are wild and do not come from domestic turkeys.

Some hunters believe silver-phase turkeys are a result of domestic turkeys mixing with a wild flock, but silver-phase turkeys "are just as wild as their bronze brothers and sisters," said NWTF Mid-Atlantic States Regional Biologist Dowd Bruton. Consider the coloring just a genetic anomaly. "We often hear that they're `white turkeys,' but when you actually get your hands on one you'll see they have a silver and black tint whereas a typical Eastern wild turkey will be bronze and black."

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#1975463 - 08/12/09 03:18 PM
Re: Wild turkey with white head. [Re: DonBo]
Leaddog Offline
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Registered: 02/25/09
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Loc: Monticello, MN
Was seeing a smoke colored bird this spring. All that saw it said it was a hen, turns out its a jake. Hope to see it as a 2 yr old. Won't be will a gun in my hand since I don't that area but sure many will be after him.

DonBo - nice job adding the NWTF facts!
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#1975464 - 08/12/09 03:18 PM
Re: Wild turkey with white head. [Re: DonBo]
Jim Uran Offline
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Loc: Lengby/Waubun
Wow, what a trophy he would be!!! Too bad we don't have a season up here on these guys yet!

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#1975476 - 08/12/09 03:23 PM
Re: Wild turkey with white head. [Re: Leaddog]
DonBo Offline
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Loc: Oakdale, MN / Webster, WI
Originally Posted By: Leaddog
DonBo - nice job adding the NWTF facts!


That's why they pay me the big money. grin

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#1975908 - 08/12/09 11:48 PM
Re: Wild turkey with white head. [Re: DonBo]
hartner62 Offline
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I'm guessing it was the same flock that I see almost on a daily basis. I saw them last year in my back yard a lot and one of the hens was bright white(doesn't look silver) and just today I watched a little one with a white head feeding in a field near by with 11 of her friends.
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#1976491 - 08/13/09 03:09 PM
Re: Wild turkey with white head. [Re: hartner62]
Muskie456 Offline
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Registered: 06/06/08
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Loc: MN
We had a guy in our hunting party kill a hen in 2006. He sent the photo into ODN but it was put in the back with the blk and whts. It was really cool he ended up mounting the bird. He watched that thing all summer.
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#1985793 - 08/22/09 04:47 PM
Re: Wild turkey with white head. [Re: Jim Uran]
vister Offline
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Loc: todd county
i believe these turkeys are cross bred wild/domestic. thats why there is two in one pic. I also believe that they are to be removed, as there is no closed season on them. i'd check with a co, but i believe they are not something you want. it prohibits the natural reproduction of wild turkeys. so, if i remember correctly just shoot them! check first though, i'd hate to apologize for someone gettin fined. the same goes for cinnamon, or brown turkeys. maybe the cinnamon ones are the cross bred turkeys? not, sure, i'd look into it further.

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#1985796 - 08/22/09 04:52 PM
Re: Wild turkey with white head. [Re: vister]
vister Offline
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Loc: todd county
just checked into it. 10-15% of wild turkeys are born with the narragansett gene, which prohibits the pruduction of red, black and brown pigments.

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#1991473 - 08/28/09 09:36 AM
Re: Wild turkey with white head. [Re: vister]
Hoyt4 Offline
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Registered: 02/14/03
Posts: 867
Where we hunt in SD we have around 7 off them now.First year hunting there was only one white lead hen.We can take hens during the spring season where I'm hunting but was not able to get one last spring she stayed on private property.Very cool to see even if not natural breeding.
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#2023553 - 10/02/09 12:04 PM
Re: Wild turkey with white head. [Re: hartner62]
BartmanMN Offline
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Registered: 02/15/07
Posts: 3110
Loc: Hanover, MN
Originally Posted By: hartner62
I'm guessing it was the same flock that I see almost on a daily basis. I saw them last year in my back yard a lot and one of the hens was bright white(doesn't look silver) and just today I watched a little one with a white head feeding in a field near by with 11 of her friends.


I had 13 birds cross in front of me in St. Michael after I dropped my compost off. None where white, but a lot of birds none the less.
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#2024554 - 10/03/09 10:01 PM
Re: Wild turkey with white head. [Re: BartmanMN]
harvey lee Offline
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Registered: 12/01/05
Posts: 32327
Loc: SC MN
They are very pretty birds. It would make a very nice mount.

Now, go get em.

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